Coaches Level 5 bars: is an inside (ie piked) stalder permitted?

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Geoffrey Taucer

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For the level 5 in-bar skill, is a piked stalder permitted?
 
The compulsory text only describes a straddle position. Presumably the committee felt if a child can do an inside stalder technique they would be past a level 5, or that they could easily choose to compete either a piked sole circle or straddled stalder while competing level 5.

Keep in mind that they are a bit specific about the hip rise initiating on the upswing of the stalder, similar to how sole circling the bar and then jumping or sliding off into the kip will not qualify.
 
i think in bar is a D. if so, no can do at level 5. i'll go and check tomorrow. all that "stuff" is at the gym.
 
Level 5 is compulsory so the only value restriction that applies is you must do what's stated in the compulsory text. I checked the text and it specifically says "legs outside of arms in a straddle" while giving no option for legs inside. I think the value/general difficulty of an inside stalder certainly is the reason the committee decided not to write it into the text. Inside requires a pretty refined drop technique, whereas a straddle leaves more leeway. Also, an inside stalder could be dangerous if the athlete cannot control it from their shoulders and ends up doing a forceful skin the cat. This is all not in line with the goals of the compulsory program which is introductory gymnastics technique.

I would not even expect 90% of level 10s to use this technique...there is little reason to really, and even an early developmental tracked kid would be working on refining clear, toe on, straddle stalder and beginning many other skills before going to an inside stalder. That's kind of like going down a rabbit hole.

And I'm sure everyone is gonna say their level 3s already do this, or something. And maybe they do. But again be careful the kid isn't doing a clear seat circle and then sliding her legs out to kip because that doesn't count and is more likely what an athlete of this level is doing.
 

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