What does everyone think of the new compulsory program? I'll add my opinion on it when I have a bit more time... overall... many positive points. The link to the program is below...
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WAG 2021-2029 Compulsory Program
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oh yes, the level 3 vault makes a lot more sense to prepare girls for level 4 vault.
so...among a few other changes, did level 3 bars dismount change (from underswing dismount)? or was that already a change (the cast squat on stretch jump dismount)
I personally don't like having the cartwheel step in instead of the round-off in level 2. I also don't like how similar the level 1 and 2 bar routines are. The last thing I don't like is going from a normal backward roll in level 1 to a back push up roll in level 2. I with level 1 was a pike roll and then the push up roll. I love the changes to the level 3+ routines but i'm interested to see the level 4 and 5 front tumbling pass.
I've started teaching the FHS step-out + Cartwheel + BER and I'm really struggling. Do we think the girls are going to squat out of the Cartwheel in to the BER?!? I do love all the new options for level 5 and love that there is a non-back tumbling option on beam.
It seems like level 1 and 2 are really similar so there isnt really a point in kids doing level 1. I mean level 2 doesnt have a round-off anymore, the bar routines are really similar, and beam is also really similar. The main difference is the vault
Looks like the level 3 bars routine has changed a lot. How long have these new standards been out because a ton of the new level 3 routines were my DD2’s exact XS routines last season 2019-2020, especially vault and bars.
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I was also wondering how these new routines will intersect with Xcel. Will Xcel modify their routines as well?
I also wonder if they took some of the XCEL standards and ‘changed’ the JO standards but in reality they are exactly the same. Like copied and pasted from XCEL to JO equivalent.
When DD1 did XS, she vaulted onto the vault table and did a handstand flat back to stacked mats, this was 2016-2017. DD2 did XS last season and it had changed to the sideways stacked mat. I thought it was bizarre but it really helped her transition to the vault table this season.
Do XCEL and JO change in the same years? I know that the JO routines have been the same since DD1 was L2, that was 2015. The XCEL standards have changed sometime between 2017 and 2019 because I have had 2 kids go thru XS and at least the bar and vault routines changed. My DD2 competed the routine with the squat on stretch jump dismount. DD1 did not have that at all.
I also wonder if coaches had access to what the new routines would be and went ahead and made the XCEL routines exactly like what the new JO equivalent would be. However, the sideways mats were always the standard XS vault at meets for all teams so that has me thinking that they are literally copying and pasting from XCEL.
A lot of people believe they use Xcel as a "testing ground" for new compulsory ideas. This was super evident with Silver vault.
I believe this and I have witnessed these changes first hand.
However, my DD2 will still be considered a second rate ‘lesser than’ gymnast, as she has grown up on the XCEL path thus far. FWIW, she’s 9 and has been invited to up train with level 6’s once summer session starts, so I don’t think her path has been hindered at all by XCEL.
No more stride circle for Level 3? OMG that has been there since the 70s lol that's awesome....unless did they take that out before?
Perfect that stride circle was awful and wasnt needed above level 3
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Makes me glad my daughter is in Xcel, LOL. We've competed at meets with L3's and it is rare to see a good stride/mill circle. It seemed pretty universally hated.
What's funny about the stride circle is tiny little 2s and 3s are terrified of it and often take a year to learn it. If you take a kid who skipped 2 and 3 and therefore never learned one and ask them to try it for fun at level 5 or 6, they will get it in one try. That's why I never had kids who were optionals bound bother with L 2 & 3. It was a wasted year on bars.
this one bothers me a bit because our girls are doing gold now with the plan to test out of 4 and 5 the same day. They all have lovely full turns on beam with their arms in front of them. We have level 9/10 girls at our gym who do their full turn with their arms at their sides. What do you all think is the reasoning for this one? Or had it always been this way and I never noticed? My older DD did a full season of 5 but I can’t recall how she did the turn.
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