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GikiGirl

Proud Parent
Gymnast
Feb 21, 2009
372
Region 6
Does anyone know what the value of these skills are? Does it matter if they go off one or two feet? Thanks so much.
 

gymkat

Judge
Jun 24, 2008
690
A tucked gainer off the end is a B, and a piked gainer is a C. I've never seen someone do it off of two feet, but according to the 08-09 update, any backwards salto that starts facing out is considered a gainer.
 

GikiGirl

Proud Parent
Gymnast
Feb 21, 2009
372
Region 6
I saw somewhere else that it was a C, and didn't believe it myself so wanted to check here. I can't even do a roundoff layout, let alone a layout double twist dismount, which is a C also, but can do a tuck gainer into pit; will try to take it to the beam and also work on piking it!
 
Aug 2, 2008
322
east coast
The pike is only a C if the gainer is off the end of the beam, with your head close to the end of the beam. Off the side of the beam, its an A.

This dismount off the end is not easy, it takes a lot of time to develop for safety reasons! Lots of work tossing the gainer straight out, landing on the back on a big resi mat, then adding the height to add the flip much later.

My thoughts: if you arent at the skill level to do a round off on the beam, you are not at the skill level to do this dismount safely.
 

GikiGirl

Proud Parent
Gymnast
Feb 21, 2009
372
Region 6
I can do a roundoff on the beam, just am not a great twister. I realize it's dangerous if not done correctly, thanks for the heads up. I have a beam into pit setup I can do when I am ready; for now I will keep working gainer off the edge of the floor, and also the drill you mentioned onto a mat stack. I am level 8 not 9 anyway, so a B level dismount (tuck) will work for me.
 
May 14, 2008
115
US
I do the tuck as my dismount. It's really not that hard... I've never had an issue hitting the beam, except for a few times when I flipped a pike and clipped the tips of my toes.

I think the key to this dismount is to drive off the leg you stand on (not the swinging leg) and snap your hips HARD.

I love this dismount... it always makes people gasp when you do it. Quite the shocker!
 
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