My daughter moved to her current gym last June and to progress to the next level (NGA level 4) she had to have her kip by the end of the summer. She had never attempted a kip, so really she had 6 weeks to learn one. It was obvious by the end of the summer that it wasn't going to happen. They moved her into the level 3 group and she did really well. This summer they started working kip drills. She got her first ever kip once at a camp in June, another kip mid August during practice, and 2 weeks ago she did 6 during practice. She hasn’t been able to do another since then. I’ve heard this can happen, so hoping others can chime in and offer stories that it does get better!