Really? Wow, my coach said that they were way to thin. And the girl at our gym who got them after having them for about 2 months they tore.Just from what I have seen (i looked at them when she first bought them) they are kind of cheap. What level are you? The girl who had them was a level 8 so she was doing some hard skills. Oh and if you can pm &_HILLARY<3 she used to have those grips.