NDP 1 training hours for 6yr old

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So my daughter has been asked to increase hours for NDP for this year to 9 hours, im assuming its for NDP 1 as this is her first year competing, although she has been doing 4 hrs per week in a development class.

Is 9 hours the norm for NDP 1 at 6 years old? It just seems like a lot
 
For IDP 1, 9 hours would be normal for a 6 year old. But for NDP 1 4-5 hours is the norm.
 
It is the Australian system aimed at national level gymnasts. I am sure one of the AUS members can explain things better.
 
NDP = National Development Program

Australia has three streams of gymnastics.

IDP= International Development Program, for very talented gymnasts who are accelerated through an alternative training program. Long term aim is to prepare them for international competition in their early teens. Australian junior and senior national teams are chosen from gymnasts in IDP. Only a very small number of gymnasts are selected to train for IDP

NDP, National Levels 1-10. Gymnasts train for a lower number of hours and the commitment required is less. Gymnasts may be selected to represent their state and compete at national championships.

State Levels Program, State Levels 1-10. Less training hours allows for the flexibility to participate in other sports and activities at the higher levels. Girls compete within their state.

The purpose of these three streams is to allow gymnasts to develop at a rate relative to their ability and needs.

The NDP 1's at our club train for 4 hours per week. NDP 2's for 9 hours per week.
 
I would say the development program that she has been doing would have been level1 and now moving into level 2
 
NDP is basically the same as the levels in the USA, to give our US friends an idea. NDP 1 is almost identical to the US JO level 1. The only major difference is that in Australia our kids compete from level 1, the skills are almost identical.
 
Sorry, slightly off topic, but is it true that if a child isn't selected for idp at 6/7/8 years old they can never be selected for national teams? Seems unfair on late bloomers, or a kid who was missed earlier.

We have something similar in the uk, but if you don't compete the national levels (so the idp equivalent), once you are 11 you can compete in a "challenge cup" competition and enter the following years British championships if you qualify.
 
It's not impossible, but it is very difficult. In a country like the USA and the UK this system makes no sense but we have different needs in Australia.

The IDP program is a separate levels system for kids working towards elite and their levels go IDP 1,2,3,5,6,8,10 and then junior and senior international. The kids train and compete in a whole different stream. Kids usually enter at IDP 1,2 or 3 which are aimed at 6-8 year olds. But can enter as late as IDP 5, which is usually 8-9 years old. In order to reach the higher IDP levels they must test through the lower levels. So if a child is not identified by IDP 5 then they are not eligible.

Then we have a whole separate levels system for the majority of gymnast which is level 1-10 and the stream that most gymnasts and clubs compete in. It could happen that an outstandingly talented gymnast goes through the regular levels system and is granted permission to transfer to IDP at a higher level but this just generally doesn't happen.

Australia has only a population of 23 million people, countries like the USA have 46 million children alone. We don't have the gyms and the expertise all over the place for a regular gymnastics club to take a kid to the top. We run specialist High performance center's where the top coaches in the country teach the top kids. Most gym clubs don't even produce level 10's let alone elite's. We need to have a central program to pull the small number of kids together who have this talent.
 
My son started going 9 hours a week from just before age 6.5. Once they get used to 3 hours instead of 2 at a time, it's not a problem to go 3 days. It's the jump from 2 to 3 hours that threw him for a week or two.
 
Hi gym_mum,
I'm a coach from around your way :)
Our 1's and 2's all train 6-9hrs but it's all very fun and low pressure at this level.
Hope our dd enjoys her training :)
 
Hey guys
Firstly my dd is 5 not 6 lol carnt even get my own dd bday right! Our..gym upskills.two levels higher so training level 3 competing.level 1 junior. This is our first week and my dd is sooooo excited that she carnt wait for tomorrow.

I carnt thank you all enough for your words of wisdom! I.was worried as she is!.also doing gym for sport with school but she is loving it so thats all that matters!!
 
I coach NDP1 and mine do 5 hours which is too low but there is a reason. When my daughter competed NDP1 she did 7 which is a good amount to be able to get the physical training and skills training done. Ndp1 as you know is classified as Elite. I also have a 6 year old in my NDP3 group and she does 9
 
IDP= International Development Program, for very talented gymnasts who are accelerated through an alternative training program. Long term aim is to prepare them for international competition in their early teens. Australian junior and senior national teams are chosen from gymnasts in IDP. Only a very small number of gymnasts are selected to train for IDP


This is interesting. How do they chose their gymnasts? Do the coaches pick them out, and each gym has their own IDP program? Or are there separate training facilities for kids selected to train IDP?

How do you quote just part of someone's reply?
 
IDP= International Development Program, for very talented gymnasts who are accelerated through an alternative training program. Long term aim is to prepare them for international competition in their early teens. Australian junior and senior national teams are chosen from gymnasts in IDP. Only a very small number of gymnasts are selected to train for IDP


This is interesting. How do they chose their gymnasts? Do the coaches pick them out, and each gym has their own IDP program? Or are there separate training facilities for kids selected to train IDP?

How do you quote just part of someone's reply?


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