Welcome Gymnastics Fans!

ChalkBucket was created in September of 2005 to help everyone learn more about gymnastics.

Joining ChalkBucket not only allows you access to the main forums... but also to our "Social Groups". Around 25% of our conversations now happen in the "Social Groups" which are only available to members.

Veterans: post tips for new coaches

Discussion in 'Coach Forum' started by Geoffrey Taucer, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Each generation of coaches improves by taking what prior generations have learned and building on it (as is true with most things). But there are also often nuggets of wisdom we wish we'd found earlier.

    So, to all the veteran coaches (ie 10 years or more): post advice you would like to give to those who are new to coaching.

    Will post mine in a follow-up post
    sun and txgymfan like this.
  2. First piece of advice for those considering a coaching career: reconsider. Coaching is a blast and is emotionally incredibly rewarding, but it's physically and emotionally exhausting and doesn't pay much for what you put in. In other words, it's a wonderful, wonderful job when you're in school and your parents are covering most of your expenses, but it's not nearly so wonderful a decade down the line when your injuries take longer to heal and you have to pay bills/rent/mortgage/etc.

    Second piece of advice, should you choose to ignore the first: coaches are imperfect. don't strive to be as good as the coaches who coached you; strive to be better. Your coaches' ability is not the end goal; it's the starting line. Sports science has progressed, sports psych has progressed, gymnastics technique has progressed, and society has changed since your coaches were in the sport. I myself am not by any means old; it's been a mere ten years since last I competed, and yet the sports has changed enormously since I was an athlete. If I were to teach my students the way my coaches taught me, it would be inadequate at best and negligent at worst.
    If you came up in the sport as one of my students, then your absolute first assumption should be that you can do it better than I did. Do not even question this assumption. Your job is not to coach your students as well as I coached you; your job is to do it better. The way I coach is most-assuredly wrong, but it's less wrong than the way my coaches taught me, which is less wrong than the way their coaches taught them. Your job is to be less wrong than me

    Third: look two years ahead. In other words, if you are coaching a group of level 4s, don't look to build great level 4s; study your gym's level 6s. Look for what they do well, and try to emulate and replicate that; even more importantly, look for the things they struggle on, and try to find ways to preemptively avoid those struggles.

    Fourth: technique should be driven first by mechanics, and second by aesthetics. In other words, your first priority in training a new skill should be to optimize for mechanical efficiency; perfecting form comes after (though not long after). While an understanding of proper form and tightness and body control should be introduced as early as possible, it is extremely common for form errors to have an underlying mechanical cause.
    For example, suppose you have a kid who is piking down at the end of a back layout. Rather than trying to get them to remain extended in their layout, it may be more effective to try to build more power on the takeoff, allowing them to complete the rotation earlier without having to pike down at the end. Or suppose you have a kid who bends their knees in a cast to handstand; rather than just trying to get the legs straight, try to build their confidence and control and strength to the point where they can make it to handstand without feeling like they have to bend their legs to get there.
    For every error, there is a reason for the error, and that reason most likely has to do with either mechanics or psychology. If your competitive-level athlete (assuming he or she learned decent basics and understand the concept of a tight body) is making a form error, they are not doing it intentionally; they are doing it because, in the middle of the skill, it intuitively feels like the best option. Rather than looking to fix the form error, you will generally find more success by looking to correct the source of that intuition.

    Fifth: for every skill, train the crash first. Whether you're working on a handstand on floor or a giant on bars, athletes will be more confident and consistent and clean if they understand how to bail out of the skill if something goes wrong.
    For example, suppose you want a kid to hold a handstand on floor. The kid will never achieve vertical until they are equally confident falling either forward or backward; this being the case, they should learn how to step down, and how to either forward roll or quarter-turn-bail.

    Sixth: pick up a copy of Championship Gymnastics by Gerald George.
    #2 Geoffrey Taucer, Sep 29, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
  3. Don’t assume you know the best way. Be open to other techniques. Look at what works and what has worked for you and your gymnasts.

    When you see a drill, actually evaluate it. Sometimes a minor tweak can make a huge difference. Steal every good idea and make it better. Otherwise you’re chasing the others that are doing it like the original.

    Study. Learn the rules of the game. Watch videos, go to clinics, ask questions.

    If you were a gymnast, try to explain what you felt or would feel if you were doing the skill. If you’re spotting, help the kids feel what they should feel. If they should push through their shoulders, lift them slightly when that should happen. Don’t just move them but manipulate them.

    Make a plan and trust it. It should be malleable when necessary but don’t panic if someone from another gym makes a jump. They will and then they’ll slow and your kid will. It’ll be ok. At the same time, have a back up plan. Don’t be stubborn.

    Go with momentum. Drill it, and then do it. If it’s good, let them go. If they do that well, keep pushing. Just because something is hard for some doesn’t mean it’ll be hard for all.

    I’ll try to think of more
  4. Be able to explain things 2-3 ways. Not everyone understands your favorite way. I ask me kids all the time “ Do you understand what I am asking you to do.” If they don’t understand after that, I send them to another coach to explain it their way.

    The biggest one I can think of is “heel drive.” Little ones will tell you that they don’t have any muscles in their heels. I physically touch their hamstrings and explain how to use those muscles to get their heels up. Same with a hollow body. Most will slightly close their hips because they think they are arching their lower back when they are in the “flat hip” position that is so high important for clear hips.
  5. You have to show them how much you care befor they care how much you know
    Pineapple_Lump, PinPin, sun and 3 others like this.
  6. Not sure if fourteen years is enough to be considered a veteran, but I’ve taught and done well enough in quite a few states and a country or two.

    “The best coach hasn’t been born yet and probably never will be.” and “There is no right way to teach something, but there are wrong ways.” Those are two things I live by and think everyone should know.

    When it comes to spotting, you shouldn’t be using more muscle to spot the skill than it would take for you to do the skill yourself. It’s their skill. Spot for safety. If they aren’t doing most of the work, then they aren’t ready to try. I also only spot to ensure that they are safe and not that they will land.

    Falling is important. They should understand that falling is normal and will happen a lot. Teach your gymnasts how to fall and that it’s okay to do it. If the kids are scared of falling then they will be afraid of trying.

    The last thing has been a bit controversial when talking with other coaches. They either agree or look at me like I’m insane when I say it. Nothing is going to make you more confidant or comfortable when doing a skill than actually doing it. You can prep and drill a skill for an entire year, but that skill will still be wrong the first time you actually do it. Drills and preps are great for teaching aspects of skills and correcting things that you are doing wrong in a skill, but they will never “get” you a skill. You only “get” a skill after you are comfortable doing it and can make the corrections that are taught using preps, drills, and spotting. Don’t get disheartened because your gymnasts aren’t doing a skill perfectly after you have done ever drill and prep. Give it time and help them fix the problems.

    Oh and not every drill on YouTube is going to work for you if you don’t understand exactly what they are doing, what they are looking at, why they are doing it, where they were when they started it, what they did to prepare for it, and the exact result they want; you are just going to end up frustrated.
    JPaagtc, John, Laura and 4 others like this.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice