I definitely agree. The middle will be the interesting information. I started with the top and bottom tiers to get a sense of the score brackets on either end.So, the bottom 20 included the D3 schools? No surprising info here in general. I would be interested in seeing the 20-40 and then the 40-60 groups (not that I am asking you specifically to do that. Thanks for all you already did!). That would really help recruits know where they are generally. I really feel those are the best way to split the tiers. What did you do for the gymnasts who didn't have AA scores in L10? Did you use L9 score? This happens often with gymnasts in the lowest D1 and the D3 programsas they tend to have so many injuries that they don't compete AA well.
there were a little more than 300 who competed in the Sr E and F divisions in regionals at L10. Now, I am not sure what the DOBs were for this year's divisions but in general, it is a good marker for who are the seniors. Of course, you would also need to add those who were injured and those who didn't qualify to regionals. Likely somewhere between 400-500 seniors.And the bigger question(s) is how does this compare to the total level 10s then add in total Level 9s competing. Approx 800 athletes compared to how many total.
Did any of these 63 compete L10 at all? Even as specialists? That 16% of level 9 seems rather high, even for D3.** These numbers include Level 9 AA highs, for the 63 athletes with no demonstrable Level 10 competition experience.
If an athlete competed at least one meet as a level 10, I counted that as 1 year experience, even if they dropped back to level 9 afterwards. Not sure if that makes the most sense, but I had to stick with one way of doing things.Did any of these 63 compete L10 at all? Even as specialists? That 16% of level 9 seems rather high, even for D3.
I was asking about ALL L10 s and L9s. Not regional and National qualifers but ALL., no matter age groups either.there were a little more than 300 who competed in the Sr E and F divisions in regionals at L10. Now, I am not sure what the DOBs were for this year's divisions but in general, it is a good marker for who are the seniors. Of course, you would also need to add those who were injured and those who didn't qualify to regionals. Likely somewhere between 400-500 seniors.
Did any of these 63 compete L10 at all? Even as specialists? That 16% of level 9 seems rather high, even for D3.
Just checked road to nationals and the bottom 20 are all D3 or new teams with the exception of Alaska (d1) and Bridgeport (D2). So that actually is a really good cutoff for showing that division but using 40-64 would be good to show the lowest level D1s/Ivies.
It was roughly 2000 for level 10, according to last published data, which was before COVID. Can't remember level 9 numberI was asking about ALL L10 s and L9s. Not regional and National qualifers but ALL., no matter age groups either.
I guess you would have to look at all 50 states State Meets for L10 and L9 to even come close
And whether they can stay healthy... Congrats to your dd. Mine is graduating from a D3 this year. It was an incredible experience all around for her and for us as parents - to finally see her compete how we knew she could if she could just stay healthy throughout comp season was amazingMost L10 athletes have the talent just getting to L10 so really it is just how badly to they want to continue their gymnastics career.
Generally, yes, although the number of recruits obviously depends upon a number of factors.This is definitely interesting even though my dd is definitely not doing gymnastics in college.
So these numbers that I copied below are the total number of girls on those teams, correct? So in theory, there may be approximately only 1/4 of those numbers of spots open per year to replace the graduating seniors.
For the Top 20 College Programs:
The Bottom 21 College Programs:
- 345 Athletes
- 391 Athletes
I love this! Major congratulations to your family and your daughter. She did an amazing job rolling with ALL of the punches!Thanks for doing this! That is a lot of work and as a data person myself I find your analysis very interesting. My daughter would have been in the data somewhere! She was a late bloomer and was finishing L9 her sophomore year. I knew she needed to have two full years of L10 to have a shot at lower level D1. Well, Covid hit and so she couldn't finish L9 so no shot at regionals, westerns. Then she broke her ankle first year training L10. It took 2 years to get her back to doing gymnastics so took a gap year to try to get one year of L10 for a shot at D3. It was a roller coaster ride since as most people know on this site, first year L10 is a crap shoot. I didn't know if her dream would happen, and she really just focused on D3 since that was the reality. But I am happy to say that she was picked up by a D3 school and they are very strong in her intended major, so it just worked out perfectly. It still doesn't seem real to me and probably won't sink in until I drop her off to college in the fall! You have to have a lot of determination and persistence to make a team especially if you are not a 5-year L10 with AA scores over 38, but if my daughter can do it, I say anyone can who has the talent and perseverance. Most L10 athletes have the talent just getting to L10 so really it is just how badly to they want to continue their gymnastics career.