Gymgal (sorry can't figure how to quote previous message)
In my state I have to say no they should not still move up. Unless our goal is for children to quit gymnastics. If they don't have a kip they are looking at a 6 on bars and that is not something that will keep most kids in the sport...
Everything is relative. Old level 4 state champion to new level 4 is not a done deal. I have an old level 4 state champion who has made her kip on lb a handful of times but no where near consistently. Same child cannot hs on beam to vertical at all especially since it is now expected to be...