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It's a big Regionals weekend, so I was looking at the data around the country for this year.
I find this crazy: It has to do with the number of qualifiers at L9 and L10 moving to nationals....
(I know this came in discussion a while back ago, and was REALLY hoping things changed. It appears they have not.)
Is appears it is STILL true that regardless of region size and # of entries per age group:
FOR LEVEL 9: The number of age groups is 12 with seven(7) athletes per region per age division qualifying (Assuming they meet the criteria).
FOR LEVEL 10: The number of age groups is 16 , with seven (7) athletes per region per age division qualifying.
Every region sends the SAME number of kids, regardless of region size.
I find this CRAZY. I am familar with Region 7, and Region 4. So here is the data for each:
REGION 7 (mid-Altlantic) has a nice sheet that shows how many girls are in each age group in this region this weekend:
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0120/7899/2017_9-10_Regional_Meet_schedule.pdf
REGION 4 (upper midwest) has sheets with numbers by each level and age group:
Level 10: http://www.region4gymnastics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/L10-Rankings-March-27-Noon-1.pdf
Level 9: http://www.region4gymnastics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/L9-Rankings-March-27-Noon.pdf
So if you compare these two regions, you find that Region 7 is (no surprise) much bigger than Region 4. And, it makes no sense that a flat number of girls will go to regionals from each Region.
Look at L9 Junior 3 in Region 4. 7 kids are in that age group. All 7 Region 4 girls in this age group will go - that's 100% (if they get a 34). This is completely anticlimatic! Then look at L9 Junior 3 in Region 7 with its 19 girls (less than 38% will make it).
Look at Senior 8: 45 girls in Region 7 (15.5% will make it); 14 girls Region 4 (50% will make it).
How can anyone say this is the right way to do this?? How can this be fair??
And so in order to make it fair, it would seem that % of kids should be calculated instead.
Here is an example of a multiplier being used currently by a Region - look at Region 3 for their L7 and L8 Regional advancement, This method seems to make sense. They use a multiplier along with each state's number of entries to calculate a fair number of girls from each state to advance on to L7 and L8 Regionals.
http://www.reg3.com/2017/2017 L7 & L8 Regional Advancement Chart.pdf
Is there ANY chance that L9 and 10s will adopt a multiplier type of system to make things more fair?
And WHY on earth isn't a multiplier method currently used nationally for L9 and 10 advancement to Nationals?
The end result is that girls who really do deserve to move on to nationals don't get to go, while others in smaller regions get to move on simply because of the small size of their region. Equal representation by calculating a % of the number of girls entered by region seems the obvious answer to me!
(Am I missing something here?)
I find this crazy: It has to do with the number of qualifiers at L9 and L10 moving to nationals....
(I know this came in discussion a while back ago, and was REALLY hoping things changed. It appears they have not.)
Is appears it is STILL true that regardless of region size and # of entries per age group:
FOR LEVEL 9: The number of age groups is 12 with seven(7) athletes per region per age division qualifying (Assuming they meet the criteria).
FOR LEVEL 10: The number of age groups is 16 , with seven (7) athletes per region per age division qualifying.
Every region sends the SAME number of kids, regardless of region size.
I find this CRAZY. I am familar with Region 7, and Region 4. So here is the data for each:
REGION 7 (mid-Altlantic) has a nice sheet that shows how many girls are in each age group in this region this weekend:
http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/document/0120/7899/2017_9-10_Regional_Meet_schedule.pdf
REGION 4 (upper midwest) has sheets with numbers by each level and age group:
Level 10: http://www.region4gymnastics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/L10-Rankings-March-27-Noon-1.pdf
Level 9: http://www.region4gymnastics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/L9-Rankings-March-27-Noon.pdf
So if you compare these two regions, you find that Region 7 is (no surprise) much bigger than Region 4. And, it makes no sense that a flat number of girls will go to regionals from each Region.
Look at L9 Junior 3 in Region 4. 7 kids are in that age group. All 7 Region 4 girls in this age group will go - that's 100% (if they get a 34). This is completely anticlimatic! Then look at L9 Junior 3 in Region 7 with its 19 girls (less than 38% will make it).
Look at Senior 8: 45 girls in Region 7 (15.5% will make it); 14 girls Region 4 (50% will make it).
How can anyone say this is the right way to do this?? How can this be fair??
And so in order to make it fair, it would seem that % of kids should be calculated instead.
Here is an example of a multiplier being used currently by a Region - look at Region 3 for their L7 and L8 Regional advancement, This method seems to make sense. They use a multiplier along with each state's number of entries to calculate a fair number of girls from each state to advance on to L7 and L8 Regionals.
http://www.reg3.com/2017/2017 L7 & L8 Regional Advancement Chart.pdf
Is there ANY chance that L9 and 10s will adopt a multiplier type of system to make things more fair?
And WHY on earth isn't a multiplier method currently used nationally for L9 and 10 advancement to Nationals?
The end result is that girls who really do deserve to move on to nationals don't get to go, while others in smaller regions get to move on simply because of the small size of their region. Equal representation by calculating a % of the number of girls entered by region seems the obvious answer to me!
(Am I missing something here?)