So.. Ive had my method for teaching these for a while.. and had success with it... but another coach saw how I was teaching and offered his advice which, I thought, was mind bogglingly revolutionary at the time (just a different way of teaching what was most likely going on already).. and when I tried to implement it.. it totally bombed.. On top of that, the training method for it seems to have hurt the doubles that one of my gymnast already had (I wanted to see how it worked for improvement).
Basically, he suggested doing a tap swing that drove up to 45*, for a layout, then using the rotation for a quick 1+1/4 tuck. For layouts, I can see this working beautifully, and when I tried to implement it for the doubles I got LOTS of height, but very little rotation, and lots of hands and knee landings (in a belt).
Im curious as to other coaches developmental structure. I used to use a lot of visual techniques, spotting the floor for landing, scooping up with the knees to a location on the ceiling above landing target... but I got convinced that doing that may overload a gymnast and may make it less safe than I thought it was, so I dropped it.
This latest idea seemed safe too, but I feel I am teaching something wrong with it...
As a highschool coach, I need to get the biggest bang for my buck, but I am SO very set on making the skills I teach safe, consistent, and aestetically pleasing. I really enjoy the height of the skill when done with the tap, but the rotation is frustrating, and the landing rather hard. I dont like that sometimes she throws her head back too, making her likely to eventually start pulling the bar - something the tap seems to induce according to her.
So.. I open this up to all you... am I missing something blatant here? Am I missing a step? Im frustrated that I cant seem to teach a safe double off uneven or high bar, seeing that I can teach skills that would be considered far more difficult.
Im looking for a method that produces a safe spot for the landing, and has decent flight for a safe spot should anything go wrong in the air.
Any suggestions are welcome..
Ryan
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Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.. while it is a question, it is also an attempt to collect information...
Basically, he suggested doing a tap swing that drove up to 45*, for a layout, then using the rotation for a quick 1+1/4 tuck. For layouts, I can see this working beautifully, and when I tried to implement it for the doubles I got LOTS of height, but very little rotation, and lots of hands and knee landings (in a belt).
Im curious as to other coaches developmental structure. I used to use a lot of visual techniques, spotting the floor for landing, scooping up with the knees to a location on the ceiling above landing target... but I got convinced that doing that may overload a gymnast and may make it less safe than I thought it was, so I dropped it.
This latest idea seemed safe too, but I feel I am teaching something wrong with it...
As a highschool coach, I need to get the biggest bang for my buck, but I am SO very set on making the skills I teach safe, consistent, and aestetically pleasing. I really enjoy the height of the skill when done with the tap, but the rotation is frustrating, and the landing rather hard. I dont like that sometimes she throws her head back too, making her likely to eventually start pulling the bar - something the tap seems to induce according to her.
So.. I open this up to all you... am I missing something blatant here? Am I missing a step? Im frustrated that I cant seem to teach a safe double off uneven or high bar, seeing that I can teach skills that would be considered far more difficult.
Im looking for a method that produces a safe spot for the landing, and has decent flight for a safe spot should anything go wrong in the air.
Any suggestions are welcome..
Ryan
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Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.. while it is a question, it is also an attempt to collect information...
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