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Can someone who is more experienced please confirm if the following level 6 bar routine fulfills all the requirements?
Thank you!
- Kip - squat on - jump to high high bar- kip- cast to 45 degrees- giant - flyaway
Thank you. That's what I thought. Do I bring it up with the coach? The states are next week and the coach decided that dd will be doing a giant since she got it pretty consistently. Dd has a beautiful free hip so not sure why she doesn't let her do it.
Here are the requirements (from the USAG website):
-5 As and 1 B
-1 cast, minimum horizontal
-1 bar change
-1 circling element (usually clear hips or giants)
-dismount, minimum A
This proposed routine has a cast, a bar change, a circling element, and an A dismount so it's good on those requirements. Let's look at the skill values:
Kip: A
Squat on: A
Kip: A
Cast: A
Giant: B
Flyaway: A
Total: 5 As, 1 B
So it looks like it meets all the requirements.
I think the giant meets the same requirement a free-hip meets.I believe you need to add a free hip to meet the requirement. A stalder or toe hand will work too, but most gymnasts can do a free hip way earlier than those two skills.
It would be very odd if a coach didn't understand that a free hip is required in an optional bar routine. Are there other level 6's and higher level optionals at your gym? Perhaps you are misunderstanding that there isn't a free hip in the routine? I guess there's a chance that the coach just really wants your daughter to compete the giant and feels doing both skills will cause more deductions than it's worth in SV and is okay w/ the reduced start value, but that would be really unlikely - especially if your daughter has a good free hip - you'd just do both skills in that case.
A parent confronting a coach who is making a mistake can sometimes cause more problems when it's worth though. A few tenths missed on a bar routine score at one meet may not be worth the damage to the relationship that would occur by your telling this coach they are wrong. Know what I mean?
I think the giant meets the same requirement a free-hip meets.
A giant is not from group 3, 6, or 7. A giant is a Group 4 skill.I think the giant meets the same requirement a free-hip meets.
It would be very odd if a coach didn't understand that a free hip is required in an optional bar routine. Are there other level 6's and higher level optionals at your gym? Perhaps you are misunderstanding that there isn't a free hip in the routine? I guess there's a chance that the coach just really wants your daughter to compete the giant and feels doing both skills will cause more deductions than it's worth in SV and is okay w/ the reduced start value, but that would be really unlikely - especially if your daughter has a good free hip - you'd just do both skills in that case.
A parent confronting a coach who is making a mistake can sometimes cause more problems when it's worth though. A few tenths missed on a bar routine score at one meet may not be worth the damage to the relationship that would occur by your telling this coach they are wrong. Know what I mean?
Some of them don't though....or they misunderstand/misinterpret things. It is shocking, but it definitely happens more often than people realize. I would find a tactful/respectful way to bring it up and hopefully it will be changed.I get that you don't question the coach on coaching, however, if the coach doesn't know the basic required elements I don't see why that can't be stated. The gymnast should start at a lower start value because you have to tread lightly here?? They are being paid to know the rules.