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And actually, I think you can do pullover, cast, back hip, cast, straddle on undershoot and have it count as 5....Fuzi can confirm, I don't coach Xcel but think I read that on here. Initially I assumed that was what you were seeing as 4 element routines because to me that is 4...
There is a cast before the back hip circleI thought xcel silver bar routines had to have 5 elements? I keep seeing silver bar routines of YouTube eith
Glide swing
Pullover
Back hip circle
Dismount
That's only 4. How is their start value 10?
Gym dog they do not get credit for the same skill twice so they would not get credit for the second cast and would only be 4 skills.
Huh... I knew that they can get credit for the same skill as long as one is on low bar and one on high so a cast on each would have credit but never realized they could have two on low bar. I think that is silly I swear when I think I have everything down..
In Xcel Bronze, silver, and Gold, any time the hips leave the bar it is counted as a cast… which sucks when a girl in Gold slams into the bar so hard her hips bounce back off and she has already done one cast below horizontal or arched or whatever before the skill and was going to do a cast to horizontal after. Then she won't get credit for the horizontal cast because it is #3 on that bar.Like I said, I only remembered it at all because I was kind of surprised when I heard it. I wouldn't really consider a straddle undershoot from front support to have a cast prior to it, just because I think that cast is nominal. Most kids in this level don't use a drag drop technique into the undershoot that shows a distinct cast but I guess I get the point that they were trying to stay consistent.
In Xcel Bronze, silver, and Gold, any time the hips leave the bar it is counted as a cast… which sucks when a girl in Gold slams into the bar so hard her hips bounce back off and she has already done one cast below horizontal or arched or whatever before the skill and was going to do a cast to horizontal after. Then she won't get credit for the horizontal cast because it is #3 on that bar.
And Xcel has an A cast and a B cast - the cast handstandYes, same holds for other levels. But in the level program they are deducted for extra swings or cast amplitude, in Xcel they are not. I guess in optional levels since a not handstand cast has no VP, it's not exactly the same situation, but they would get a deduction. Although I guess there is no cast hips back to bar past level 4 in JO, anyway, I know in Xcel they are allowed to do for example cast back hip, straddle undershoot without necessarily incurring a rhythm deduction.