do you think its fair..?

[livelifetumble8dx]

hi guys, do you think its fair when someone has progressed beyond their level's expectations and then they have to wait for the rest of the team to catch up and continue doing skills shes been able to do for months? I have most my level 4 skills and alot of level 5 skills i've established on my own or have worked on while i was with the level 4s. About the only time i get to up level is probably when a the level 4 teacher is out sick, and the level 4s have to work with the level 3s because there coach isnt there. I'd like to work on other things then front handsprings and kickovers, theres a few other girls who feel the same but it seems like theres an unspoken rule " the majority wins, the rest will have to suffer " like.. the majority of girls who cant do anything get to work on things they need, while the girls who are already up there have to wait for everyone else to catch up to them before they can work on other things. For an example we havent worked on backhandsprings in nearly a month with the exception of doing one or two at the end of class. Idk, i & the other girls dont think its fair when we cant get the skills we need to progress and they do. :/ do you? idk, maybe im just being whiney.

i was considering switching but i dont know anymore.. i was so sure a few months ago but now ugh D:
theres 2 gyms, quite a bit away in my area that look promosing but theres a nice one 40 minutes away and then theres the gym that Alicia Sacramone had trained at & thats an hour away (brestyan's all american gym) which also looks promising..how far would you go to get good gymnastics? D:

 

[Blazing15]

I would talk to you Coach. We just left a gym that was like that. My daughter was getting very bored and above the other girls in class but she had to remain in the class until fall. We switched Gyms and we love this gym. It doesn't go by age it goes by skills so if you have all your skills down for that level they will move you up and not make you wait.

 

[Pickle's Mom]

Have you asked your coach when you will be able to work on new skills? Or when you might be ready to move up? It is frustrating towards the end of the season when some girls have progressed farther than others. I know at my daughter’s gym, if a girl has “passed offâ€￾ on a skill they are working on during practice, she’s allowed to start progressions on the next skill. So, while some girls are still working on the cartwheels on the high beam, others are doing their BWO’s on a line on the floor.

But (and I know that this is going to sound like just another irritating adult talking to you) asking if it is “fairâ€￾ is never, ever, ever going to get you what you want in this life. You need to re-frame the question. So instead of saying “is this situation fair…â€￾ you need to ask “what can we do to make this situation better?â€￾ In this case, it would be to ask your coach when you will be ready to uptrain?

And, sadly, even the largest gyms are limited in resources (coaches and equipment). In my perfect work every single gymnast (regardless of level) would have a custom program with the exact time on each piece of equipment they need and coaching at exactly the right moments. Sadly, in the real world, girls need to be grouped together and sometimes the groups don’t all progress together. Coaches can do their best to allow girls to work on different skills, but if all the girls need a lot of supervision, there’s only so much one coach can do.

 

[bogwoppit]

My girls are in the same group. One is 11 and the other is 13. They are not the same level. In fact in their group their are girls aged 8 to 15. They range from about L4 to L7 in skills and the coach manages to have them all working at their own level. Very small gym and all the girls on the same apparatus at the same time.

It is not about having resources, it is about creative coaching. Setting up stations, giving each girl clear objectives and not having people standing about waiting is the key.

I would simply explain to the coach that you feel you are ready to work on more challenging skills and ask her if there is anything you need to do in order to train them. The way she answers will clue you in.

As for a gym change, that would be in your parents ballpark, that is a long drive and they have to be commitd to it both financially and time wise.

Good luck, it is frustrating not to feel challenged.

 

[gymnut1]

My girls are in the same group. One is 11 and the other is 13. They are not the same level. In fact in their group their are girls aged 8 to 15. They range from about L4 to L7 in skills and the coach manages to have them all working at their own level. Very small gym and all the girls on the same apparatus at the same time.

It is not about having resources, it is about creative coaching. Setting up stations, giving each girl clear objectives and not having people standing about waiting is the key.

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Very true - my dd is 9 and the youngest in her group. The oldest member of her group is 16. They are very different levels. Not easy to coach but possible.

the more mature you are when speaking to your coach the better chance you will have of a good result. Good luck.

 

[gymnastica96]

im a little confused with what you're saying but it looks like your team is basically divided into smaller teams according to level. In my gym the levels all work together. Sure, each of the levels go to different apparatuses and stuff, but we still help each other, lk we watch each others routines and condition together and stuff. It works for us because if one girl is ready to progress, she can go to the next level while the other girls stay at the same level. Mabye you should ask your coach if you could do something like this. Hope it helped

 

[Shelovesthebars]

Even in my dd's classes of level 3/4 there are girls that are different levels on each apparatus. The coach is able to direct and spot everyone on what they need to be doing even if it is 4 different skills on the same apparatus. In the same class we have girls doing handstands on a line on the floor and some like my daughter doing Wendy dismounts on the beam all at the same time. So it is doable. In bar rotation we have some girls that are learning their back hip cirlce and some girls doing full out level 4 routines all on the same bars. The girls learn faster this way by watching girls close to there age. It is interesting and fun to watch them all progress. I hope this helps.

 

[bogwoppit]

What are "wendy" dismounts????

 

[Shelovesthebars]

I don't even know if I spelled it right but this is what my 4 year old calls them. Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. They are the level 4 USAG dismounts off of beam.

 

[hannahsmom]

My dd is in a similar situation. Her coaches tend to work on "perfecting" skills with my dd while other girls are working on "getting" the skills. They stress things with her that may seem "knit-picky" but they figure that they can't really teach her new things, so they make sure she has everything "perfect".

 

[Panda-girl's Mom]

I think that a good gym is able to adapt to each girls needs. My daughter trains with both 5,6 ages are 9-12 and each girl is able to work on their own levels and skills that they are ready for. I think my daughter would be very bored and unhappy if she was not able to work on new things.

 

[Aussie_coach]

A good coach can work a group so that everyone works on what they need. You all don't need to be doing the same skills. For example when you are tumbling some can work round off back handsprings while others would round off back handsprings back tucks and so on.

But you might find you have a different idea of what you are ready for than your coaches. Sometimes a gymnast will feel they are ready to move on when they have learned a skill, but this isn't the case. The skill needs to be of a certain standard before its safe to move on. For example if you learned a round off back handspring and it wasn't too good. You could probably still move on a learn a round off back handspring back tuck. But you wouldn't have enough power to ever get a full twist out of it and would have to go back as a level 7 or 8 and fix your round off back handspring because you rushed at level 4/5. Its better to slow down early and perfect your basics than try to unlearn mistakes you have been practicing for years.