WAG for previous or current Xcel diamond athletes/coaches

[gymnasticsgymnast1]

What are the highest skills you've seen competed at competitions for Xcel diamond? preferably on each event, this is my first year Xcel diamond and I want to know what the competition is like, especially the higher end athletes.

 

[raenndrops]

Here are some of the things I've seen in Diamond the last 2-3 years.

Vault: Handspring on 1/1 Off was most popular, with some 1/1 on-1/2 off, a couple Tsuk - Back Tuck, a Yurchenko - 1/1, and a Yurchenko - Back Tuck.

Bars: Lots of Giants and CH-Handstand, giant 1/2, Toe on hecht, 1/2 pirouettes, 1/1 pirouettes, Straddle cuts, Uprises, straddle backs, Flyaway 1/2, Flyaway 1/1, one double back, and one toe on front dismount.

Beam: BWO-BHS, CW-RO, RO-BHS, FWO-FHS, Valdez, Back Tuck (1), Aerial (1), lots of switch leaps, split jump 1/2, cat leap 1/1, wolf 1/2, and straight jump 1/1, one switch side, one straddle 1/2, and on tuck 1/1, Arabian dismount, back layout 1/1, gainer layout 1/1, and a gainer tuck off the end of the beam.

Floor: ROBHS-Full, FT-FP, FT-FT, FT-FLO, FP-FLO, FT-Front 1/1, RO-BHS-Whip-Lay, and one RO-Whip 1/2-Front 1/1, Split jump 1/1, Switch side, Straddle 1/1, wolf jump 1/1, Shush, Shush 1/1, 2/1 turn, 3/2 turn w/ leg @ horizontal, and one 3/1 turn.

 

[That_Gymnast]

Also worth noting higher end diamonds at the top tier would probably now do sapphire versus diamond so overall the highest skill level you’ll mostly see in solid level 7-8 skills from what I’ve heard from teammates.

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

Is there an inherent difference in scoring? Are higher difficulty routines scored higher? Asking because I'm doing the bare minimums of diamond (low bar clearhip, high bar clearhip to flyaway, CW - RO - tuck on beam, RO layout and FHS-FT on floor, and 1/2 on 1/2 off on vault)

 

[Mthegymqueen]

Is there an inherent difference in scoring? Are higher difficulty routines scored higher? Asking because I'm doing the bare minimums of diamond (low bar clearhip, high bar clearhip to flyaway, CW - RO - tuck on beam, RO layout and FHS-FT on floor, and 1/2 on 1/2 off on vault)

Higher difficulty as in higher SV

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

Higher difficulty as in higher SV

Can you go over 10.0? I start with 10 on all of my events except vault, but with easier skills than the ones listed above.

 

[Mthegymqueen]

Can you go over 10.0? I start with 10 on all of my events except vault, but with easier skills than the ones listed above.

No

 

[raenndrops]

Is there an inherent difference in scoring? Are higher difficulty routines scored higher? Asking because I'm doing the bare minimums of diamond (low bar clearhip, high bar clearhip to flyaway, CW - RO - tuck on beam, RO layout and FHS-FT on floor, and 1/2 on 1/2 off on vault)

There is no bonus until Sapphire ... where basic SV is 9.60 with up to 0.40 bonus.

 

[NYGymfamily]

Is there an inherent difference in scoring? Are higher difficulty routines scored higher? Asking because I'm doing the bare minimums of diamond (low bar clearhip, high bar clearhip to flyaway, CW - RO - tuck on beam, RO layout and FHS-FT on floor, and 1/2 on 1/2 off on vault)

I believe you need a B salto on floor unless I'm mistaken so you'd be starting at a 9.5

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

I believe you need a B salto on floor unless I'm mistaken so you'd be starting at a 9.5

Oh. My coach did not mention this. I'll try to work FHS FP to have a B salto.

 

[NYGymfamily]

Oh. My coach did not mention this. I'll try to work FHS FP to have a B salto.

You can also do RO B Layout, Front Pike, and a roundoff backhandspring or another double flight acro pass if you have the time/space in your routine. Talk to your coach though.

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

You can also do RO B Layout, Front Pike, and a roundoff backhandspring or another double flight acro pass if you have the time/space in your routine. Talk to your coach though

Hmm, probably not. I don't have time in my routine nor do I think I'll have the cardio to do that. Plus, my FHS - salto is better than my standalone FP for sure.

 

[raenndrops]

Also worth noting higher end diamonds at the top tier would probably now do sapphire versus diamond so overall the highest skill level you’ll mostly see in solid level 7-8 skills from what I’ve heard from teammates.

Lol, yah. Most of the higher-level skills I saw were from girls who also competed for their high schools (Level 8 rules with special high school bonus) and were event specialists on one or 2 events during the high school season, and those were pre-Sapphire existence at YMCA Regionals and Nationals a couple years ago. I think one had been training Level 9 when her club gym closed, and she (and half her team) switched to a YMCA gym in their area. She had previously been Top 3 at Level 8 State AA (2nd on Bars and Beam). Since her Y didn't have any L9s and their L8s had graduated the year before, she decided to compete Xcel.

 

[raenndrops]

Hmm, probably not. I don't have time in my routine nor do I think I'll have the cardio to do that. Plus, my FHS - salto is better than my standalone FP for sure.

Lol, all 3 of my gymmies (2 former and 1 current) have asthma. Their lungs couldn't handle long routines. OG maxed out at 1:15 with enough "fluff" to only need 2 passes.
YG had routines between 37 seconds and 58 seconds in Gold and Platinum.
LSS routines are usually 50-57 seconds (with the last 3-8 seconds on the ground doing floor stuff, ending in her splits).

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

Mine's 1:15 too! I wouldn't mind adding more choreo to it, but another pass would probably not be very pretty haha.

 

[raenndrops]

Mine's 1:15 too! I wouldn't mind adding more choreo to it, but another pass would probably not be very pretty haha.

When OG had the 1:15, she started on the floor for the first 7 seconds, and spent the last 7 seconds on the floor.
Adding another pass would have been very rough for any of my girls, so I understand!
Good luck.