Coaches Help understanding scoring in junior elite floor routine

[DP gymnast mom]

Hi are there any coaches or judges that can help me understand the scoring of a recent floor routine for a junior elite routine?

 

[DP gymnast mom]

Hi are there any coaches or judges that can help me understand the scoring of a recent floor routine for a junior elite routine?

 

[Gymgirl84]

My evaluation:
Front tuck step out (A)+Round off (A)+FF(A)+double pike(D)
0.1 low chest in landing
0.3 big hop
0.1 additional step
0.1 additional step
Switch full (I would only credit as a switch half, so C)
0.3 body shape
0.1 height
0.1 precision
Split full (C)
0.1 body shape
0.1 precision
Round off+ff+double pike (D)
0.1 height
0.1 feet
0.1 chest in landing
0.1 underrotation
0.3 big step
Double turn (she hopped before completion, so downgraded to a full turn, A)
0.1 out of balance
0.1 precision
Switch leap (B)+tour jete 1/2 (C)
0.30 body shape switch leap
0.1 height switch leap
0.3 body shape tour jet 1/2
0.1 height tour jete 1/2
0.1 precisión tour jete 1/2
Round off+ff+back layout 11/2 (C)
0.1 crossed feet
0.1 legs separated
0.3 step

D-score
2D, 4C, 1B, 1A 2.30
ERC (all fulfilled) 2.00
No CV
D-score 4.30

Execution deductions (stated above) 3.6
Artistry deductions 0.7
Body posture 0.1 not bad, but could be a little better (chin up)
Poor foot work 0.1
Amplitude of movements 0.1
Involvement of body parts 0.1 (she mostly does movements with arms/legs needs to involve torso, hips, head,...)
Complexity of choreography 0.1
Expression 0.1/0.2 (hard to judge from the vid)

E-score 5.8

OOB deduction: I think it was 0.3, but I'm not sure from the vid if both feet went out.

Final score: 4.3+5.8-0.3 = 9.8

Maybe I was a bit harsh, or maybe she scored in that range. She has a lot of deduction on the dance elements, if I was her coach, I'd do the minimum amount, probably only the dance series + the split full that was the best of the dance elements she did. Could maybe keep the turn if she usually hits it well.
Acro is mostly ok in the air, but the landings were very costly here.

 

[DP gymnast mom]

Thanks so much! Very helpful! She stepped out with one foot only, so 0.3 or 0.2?

The judges were even more harsh for this competition as apparently (according to the coach) they were asked to be. They actually gave her a 9.2.

Coach said this was way too harsh and is disputing it. The coach agreed that she deserved between 9.8-10.0 as well.

 

[Gymgirl84]

If she went out with one foot then it's 0.1, so it would be a 10.
Anyway, sometimes the judging criteria is harsher for everybody, and it is more or less within the rules to have a 0.5 difference between judges, especially when we're talking about 4 points in penalties, so a 9.2 is maybe a little low, but something like a 9.5 would be in range with my score.

 

[DP gymnast mom]

That makes total sense! We all just thought that 9.2 was a bit extreme.

 

[DP gymnast mom]

In your opinion are the issues based on the fact that she doesn't have the best form?

 

[Gymgirl84]

I don't think it is mostly form, I think she's lacking flexibility on the leaps, like hitting the actual 180º, also the jumps and leaps could get more height. The overall precision in the dance elements, showing clear positions in the elements and in their finish especially.
Also, she had very significant deductions on the landings of the acro.
I think for form itself she only had some in the twisting and some foot form overall.

 

[3rd_time_around]

I read that the FIG Code was being updated to reflect greater weight given to artistry this cycle than there has been in the past. This was to appease other countries who have been saying that the US keeps winning because they are more powerful and aren't showing as much artistry as they should. So, now artistry is a BIG deal and the lack of it was reflected in the scores from the American Classic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I know several elites and have talked to the moms, and this is what they were told when their lower-than-expected scores were questioned. They have higher difficulty than their final scores reflected, and it was due to the lack of artistry. They have been focusing a lot more on artistry as they get ready for this weekend.

Artistry may have played a larger role in her score than you're aware of.