Parents Help with level 10 routine

[Flicfliclay]

My daughter is coming back from injury, but wants to be able to put a routine out before end of season, She is not sure she will have all her full skills back in time, but wants to be able to work with what she can perform right now.

Right now she is trying to work with pass 1 Rudi, pass two 1 1/2 front pike, 3rd another rudi.
As we are finding out if she does another rudi in her last pass that it wont count? What can she add or do in order to count or have utl deductions? She is working to get back double back and front double full, but it might not happen in time so she is trying to figure out what is possible with the least amount of utl deductions..

 

[Gymgirl84]

I'm thinking connecting one of the rudi to another skill, like front layout+rudi can make it count, but I'm not fully sure.

 

[gym_dad32608]

Doesnt she have a coach for this?

 

[Flicfliclay]

Doesnt she have a coach for this?

Well of course she does! What a silly reply! Unless she is a self taught level 10 and we are just willy nilly-ing it out here! LOL! Was just fishing for ideas and suggestions and to keep this site active for a source that parents can come to. I mean isn't that what this site is for? Thanks for your reply

 

[gym_dad32608]

Just taking a step back, big picture type thing, if you are coming to a message board for routine construction advice versus the coach that sees your child almost every day and should know better what your child can and cannot do.....

I guess if you want to have some academic type discussion about different passes and point construction? Sure. Most parents I know, including me, just arent that involved and exist somewhere between "that looked good" and "I think that was a double-back?". I trust the coaches to devise whatever they need to do to get her the point values she needs. And I am definitely not going to be the parent that goes to the coach and says "she should do X skill instead of what you are having her do"

I am just contributing to keep this board active too! No replies are silly

 

[Flicfliclay]

Just taking a step back, big picture type thing, if you are coming to a message board for routine construction advice versus the coach that sees your child almost every day and should know better what your child can and cannot do.....

I guess if you want to have some academic type discussion about different passes and point construction? Sure. Most parents I know, including me, just arent that involved and exist somewhere between "that looked good" and "I think that was a double-back?". I trust the coaches to devise whatever they need to do to get her the point values she needs. And I am definitely not going to be the parent that goes to the coach and says "she should do X skill instead of what you are having her do"

I am just contributing to keep this board active too! No replies are silly

Okay.. so you replying "doesn't she have a coach for this" is your contribution? I mean i would assume if we as parents have made it to level 10 along with our kids, they obviously have coaches they work with for routine construction.
I asked just to see if there were some unique ideas i could throw at her to see if it may work, period. Why is that bad?
Involved parent? Again, by level 10 i am sure you and I and any other level 10 parent knows what a double back is.. so lets not be ridiculous.
Its comments like that that make people not want to ask anything, no question is silly...

 

[Coach Kate]

I'll speak as a coach: no, I don't really want the parents of my athletes asking the Internet for ideas for skills for their child to try. I want them to know that I have the knowledge and the resources to put together the best possible routine composition for their child. If I'm not sure, maybe I ask a judge for feedback on a potential routine. I want parents to make sure their kids are well rested, well fueled, and filled with the knowledge that their parents are their biggest fans.

 

[Flicfliclay]

I'll speak as a coach: no, I don't really want the parents of my athletes asking the Internet for ideas for skills for their child to try. I want them to know that I have the knowledge and the resources to put together the best possible routine composition for their child. If I'm not sure, maybe I ask a judge for feedback on a potential routine. I want parents to make sure their kids are well rested, well fueled, and filled with the knowledge that their parents are their biggest fans.

And why is that Coach Kate? How does that do anything to hinder your job as a coach? My daughters coach is beyond capable and is working with her athlete. I as a parent was CURIOUS as to what possibilities there were to chat with my OWN child on possible things she could try and talk with her coach about. And to insinuate that as a parent we aren't our kids biggest fan is just insulting. My kid has been in the sport for 14 years so i kinda know the drill, and by asking about possibly ideas on a GYMNASTICS community is the place to do it right? Parents and coaches work together in maintaining a healthy athlete and having a healthy fun conversation with my daughter about gymnastics related skills should be acceptable and encouraged. Thank you coach Kate for your enthusiasm, and knowledge is power.

 

[Flicfliclay]

I'm thinking connecting one of the rudi to another skill, like front layout+rudi can make it count, but I'm not fully sure.

thanks! not not sure either. have a great day

 

[Dahlialover]

I think that people need to remember that just because the coaches at your gym are attentive and communicative does not mean that every gym is like this. There are many gyms where optional level gymnasts are expected to take a lot of initiative in goal-setting. If a gymnast does not understand the requirements, it can be difficult for them to set appropriate goals. Not every coach makes time to discuss these things with their gymnasts.

My son is injured and he wasn’t being given anything to do at practice, so I studied the COP and figured out a list of hands-free skills that he could work for level 8 next season. Once he had some goals to work towards the coaches were happy to work with him.

Of course the coach makes the final call on routine composition but the gymnast who takes initiative makes their own opportunities.

 

[gym_dad32608]

And why is that Coach Kate? How does that do anything to hinder your job as a coach? My daughters coach is beyond capable and is working with her athlete. I as a parent was CURIOUS as to what possibilities there were to chat with my OWN child on possible things she could try and talk with her coach about. And to insinuate that as a parent we aren't our kids biggest fan is just insulting. My kid has been in the sport for 14 years so i kinda know the drill, and by asking about possibly ideas on a GYMNASTICS community is the place to do it right? Parents and coaches work together in maintaining a healthy athlete and having a healthy fun conversation with my daughter about gymnastics related skills should be acceptable and encouraged. Thank you coach Kate for your enthusiasm, and knowledge is power.

I think that is a little uncalled for. Kate was not insinuating anything about you or your child. She was just relating her own experience/viewpoint as an actual coach. You continue to do you. I will always say a parent knows more about their own child than any random poster on a message board. But if you throw something out on a message board, expect to get a variety of responses and questions. No one has attacked you.