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    Parents Did I ruin my daughters opportunity at a good gym?

    Now knowing OP posted both posts, the timeline makes more sense. Having <3 kids join independent class is an exception not a norm and probably there is more to each case (ie my 4 yo was put in rec with 6-9 group because her group didn’t get enough sign ups and the gym didnt want to spend $ on...
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    Parents Did I ruin my daughters opportunity at a good gym?

    No they won’t put 2 with 5s. I don’t know any sports class would do independent 2s as many are not potty trained. I think she meant 3s. And yes 3-5 is a reasonable range for “minis”- youngest independent rec and at many gyms, rec levels are based on age rather than skills, and there is no such a...
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    Parents Did I ruin my daughters opportunity at a good gym?

    If this best gym goes crazy about you wanting to come back in a year, then maybe it is not what it seems, indicating an unhealthy culture. When evaluating gyms, I’ve learned to dig deeper. Three things I look at beyond the basics: 1) what is the drop out rate from L3 to L4, then L4 to L6 - high...
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    Parents Repeating Bronze?

    My daughter repeated bronze and then went straight to gold. 2 years per level is normal for xcel - projecting the same amount of years from level 1-6. Higher bronze can have silver floor and beam routines, close to silver bar routine. The only big difference would be vault - silver vault will be...
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    Women youngish Level 7

    Agreed, same situation my daughter is in, competing against super talented girls with a whole level up of resources as well as girls much older (up to 12 at some meets). It is hard to be sandwiched - the younger phenoms are mostly elite tracked and train 8-10 hrs more than her on average, and...
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    Parents What level would my daughter be at your gym

    The two elements have to be directly connected. Her floor and vault are holding her back.
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    Parents What level would my daughter be at your gym

    Xcel? Silver maybe if she gets her ROBHS.
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    Parents Excel → DP? Rookie Gym Dad Asking Smarter People for Help

    Personally I think it doesn’t align with the child’s clearly stated goals - a year in 4 and 5 for a 12 yo after gold will most definitely make sure she won’t reach her goal. I wouldn’t have said the same if she were 8 or 9. I think good coaches need to take the child’s unique position into...
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    Parents Excel → DP? Rookie Gym Dad Asking Smarter People for Help

    great research! Her needing to do level 4 or not is practically depending on whether she has her kip or not. You need to find a coach who has invested interest in her. Honestly from a parent’s perspective, if a coach suggests a strong ambitious 12yo gold to start from level 4, I would have some...
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    Parents Looking to narrow down gym choices that would be a good fit for our competitive daughter

    If your girl is still doing rec and not on track for team yet, I would say how the teams are doing at any given gym has very low relevance to their recreational program and their rec may not even be their main pipeline of team. Visit the gyms, try the commute, ask about the team eval...
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    Coaches Training - school/xmas Holidays

    I have never heard of such a long break, surprisingly it seems so common acc to the chats here. We’ve taken off 3 weeks for vacation, the gym takes off 10 days max in summer. My daughter wouldn’t know what to do with herself not going to the gym for a month. Try to find camps, if not gymnastics...
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    Women Identifying talent for your teams

    not a coach, just a parent who has a daughter rise from rec to comp and another daughter still in rec. 140 girls is not a big pool, from what I see at our gym, we have about 500-700 rec girls each semester. To get picked for the usag xcel bronze team, girls need to be between 4 and 8, with...
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    Women Gotham Gymnastics

    One of the best in NYC and surrounding areas, great facility (surprising for nyc), produces college bound gymnasts. Their DP program is intense, it is better to visit and do a tour to see if it is a fit for your daughter. You don’t really have too many choices though in nyc even when you are...
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    Parents Looking for some advice / feedback on some questions regarding Level 2 Gymnast

    When she said “other girls”, did she mean by other girls on her team or girls from other teams (comparable age)? 5 is extremely young and a lot of times at this age her body is just nit mature enough to perfect her forms and techniques, and learning new skills rather than just working on current...
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    Women Decisions

    explain the differences to parents and girls clearly - many families will choose xcel from the get go willingly regardless of the gym’s focus. To some girls, gym is all they want, to others, gym is one of their many sports. Families would appreciate information on hours, requirements...
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