2 vs 4 piece

[OzZee]

OK I think I've got the general idea of how the grades vs levels/ national vs elite route in the UK.
But how does the floor and vault only competitions work - do those kids do the grades or is that another 'stream' altogether? Or is it generally a starting point before doing all four apparatus?

 

[Iwannabemargo]

in our county ( and every county is different) we do novice 2 piece - skills like cartwheels, handstands, roundoffs plus handstand flatback vault. Novice 4 piece, 1/2 spin fwd roll, jumps on beam, circle up, cast, back hip circle, squat on, jump off on bars.

Then its Development 2 piece - adding in flicks and handspring vault, development 4 piece , leaps, free rolls, cartwheels on beam, simple 2 bar routine on bars.

Intermediate adds in saltos on floor, acro on beam, 1/2 ons on vault, upstarts and baby giants on bars.

P&F did grade 14 whilst doing development, and is doing grade 12 next week, she also competes level 5 out of county and intermediate in county.

hth

'Margo

 

[Faith]

It can be a starting point for competition. You can't compete wag before the year you turn 8, so some clubs will just up train until then. F&v you can compete the year you turn 6, so some clubs will put their littlies in for competition experience before moving to wag.

Otherwise it's generally separate. You can move from f&v to wag, up to you, your coaches and club. You need written permission to move from wag to f&v though.

F&v is a pretty good option for many clubs. Means kids can compete on 4-6 hours a week, and get pretty good at the two pieces. They also don't need the heavy conditioning. They're not held back by strength on bars or beam fears.

We have 5 levels. Starts with very basic with squat on a block and a string of 8 skills on a floor strip, ends with proper vaults and full floor routines to music. There are mandatory move up scores to the next level, which are reasonable.

It's also a useful option for clubs with boys, very few clubs do full 6 piece, so it can keep boys interested.

Overall, I think f&v has a much better structure than wag! In this region at least- I think rules are set by region, rather than nationally?

 

[Iwannabemargo]

I thin so too @Faith as your set up seems much more F&V dedicated. Here we just use it as a stepping stone or rec comp. I agree with the boys though, Big boy only competed F&V as his club had no boys equipment, but he was good on beam lol. F&V also ties in quite nicely with the rec timetable and BAGA badge scheme.