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I have a soon to be 5 year old who has been doing gymnastics since she was 3. Originally we did not take it too seriously and just used it as exercise because we were already at the gym for her big sister. She quickly progressed out of the tots classes and picks up skills with ease. Around 4 years old our previous gym had her start working on level 1 and 2 skills and she was going 4/5 days a week one hour a day where they trained something different each day. We were very happy with their program and she was working towards the competitive track that her big sister is on. She actually thrived in the more structured program and enjoyed it more. When she was in the tots program she would get bored, sit down watch others, roll on the floor so on. As soon as the gym moved her up with bigger kids she started working on skills and paying attention even asking to go to gymnastics more days.

The problem is we moved and do not have the option in our lives to move back at the moment. We found a new gym as soon as we moved. My older daughter made the team and it thriving; she has gotten stronger and learned many new skills. She is 9 years old and practicing 16 hours a week. I honestly think they do a great job with the team. My little one is not thriving; I have tried to express this to the gym in more round about manner and they either are not getting my point or just do not care. I want to be respectful and I do not want to be a pushy mom. However at this point we are getting quite frustrated with the path the little one is on.

She was 4.5 when we moved to the new gym. Her skills were too advanced for tots classes which is what they said her age was. However, they said she was not quite strong enough to make the pre pre-team. She may have just had a bad try out. They put her in rec classes to gain some strength. They wanted her to attend the rec class once a week for an hour. First of all going from 4/5 hours a week to 1 hour a week is not going to make her stronger, she will get weaker! Second, when I expressed the want for more gym time for her they suggested more rec classes. We tried Ninja, it is mostly boys and she is not interested. We tried signing up and paying for a second one of the same class she is in; however it is the same exact lesson plan for the week. Then she ends up doing the same thing twice a week and is bored and still not stronger. Still only two hours a week there; she has a lot of energy and wants to do gymnastics!

She has not really been working new skills or getting the personal attention she got at our old gym and is getting bored. She complains at home that her big sister gets more days at the gym and gets to complete. As a parent I tried suggesting she practice at home for a while so she could improve and move up. She did this happily for a while (probably with bad form!) but then as a 5 year old got tired of it when she did not move up. She already has most all of her level 2 skills at 5 years old and was working towards level 3 skills. She basically goes to the gym twice a week messes around, pulls on the teachers shirt for him to watch her do a skill she has done for 6 months now, he gives her a thumbs up and then she stands there and looks around. She has had at least 5 different teachers for her rec class since we have been here (6 months). I would expect them to at least correct her form or give her a new drill to work on next. I have tried to be supportive of all the teachers as they are young and have big groups of kids to work with. I even bribed my daughter and told her she could have a sticker or whatever at home if when I sat and watched her entire class she worked the whole time on skills even if her teacher was not looking. I watched her go through an entire rotation of bars skills doing about 10 of each skill and looking at me for a thumbs up each time, then rotating. Other kids needed spots and the teacher stopped and helped them. Because my daughter has the skills he just skipped right over her. We have also tried to sign her up for gymnastics holiday camps and clinics and they keep telling us she is not old enough. But how is she supposed to move up to the path she wants to be on if you only take her 1 or 2 hours a week? Besides the fact that this kid has endless amounts of energy.

As parents and athletes ourselves we feel she could be very good at whatever sport we put her in if the coaches pay attention to her. I have seen 6 year olds competing at meets. However, if she is not even on the pre team we are a bit discouraged. Should I be more direct and simply ask why they have not moved her up and tell them we are quite frustrated? Should I look for a different gym just for my little one? But then does this get awkward if the older one wants to stay at this gym? Should we find another sport she loves where the coaches will put the time into her? She really is a natural athlete and enjoys it. Am I overreacting?

Thoughts are much appriciated to put this in perspective! Thank you!
 
Hi there! I’m happy to share my experience. A caveat is that I’m also the mom of a 5yo gymnast and would totally defer to what the more experienced parents/coaches/gymnasts say! :)

Anyway, I totally relate to what you shared. This fall my daughter started in beginning rec (after doing 6 months of preschool gymnastics + 2 years of ballet). I don’t know that she’s especially talented or anything, but she really loves gymnastics and she really, really wanted to make the team! I was worried that if she didn’t make the pre-team ASAP she wouldn’t be on the right path to eventually do competitive gymnastics, and the other kids would just get farther & farther ahead. So here is what we did:

1. Increased the number of rec classes per week from 2x/wk to 3x/wk to eventually 4x/wk. Yes it can be repetitive, but she was getting to know all the different coaches and they started making comments like “wow she’s here all the time; she must really love gymnastics.”

2. I asked each of her rec coaches what my daughter needed to work on. They she wasn’t strong enough, and they she needed to be able to do a bridge kickover. So I asked what exercises she needed to do to get stronger. They said she needed to be able to do 5 leg lifts + 5 chin-ups.

3. I posted on chalkbucket to ask how I can help her get leg lifts & chin-ups. (I cannot do either of those things so I needed to crowd source, lol.) Everyone had lots of great advice. (I’ll see if I can figure out how link the thread). She practiced the leg lifts and chin-ups every other day at home and now she can do 5 of each with a light spot, and a couple of each on her own.

4. For the bridge kickover, I got her three 30-minute privates at a local dance studio (our gym doesn’t do privates) and she was able to pick up the skill.

Today, I’m beaming with pride for my little girl, because she just got invited to “hot shots” (first step to team path)!! :)
 
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That is frustrating. There is often a big disconnect between the rec side of a gym and the team side. I would talk to your older daughter’s coach and ask for advice. Ask if she might be willing to do a private lesson with her to give you some feedback on what she needs to improve. If your daughter really is ready to move to preteam, the team coach will see it and they will tell you (unless there is some toxic politics between rec and team and they have to be careful what they say).

If you can’t get anywhere at your gym, I’d definitely take her to another gym. You can always come back when the is ready to try out for preteam.

Also, when it comes to developing strength in a child that age, I highly recommend swimming lessons. Swimming is a necessary safety skill and it can be hard to fit lessons into your schedule once a child starts team. My son came to gymnastics from competitive swimming at 7-years-old and they took one look at how strong he was at his first trial rec class and they put him on team immediately. He was a lot stronger from swimming than the kids coming out of preteam.

Good luck!
 
Hey All!
I have a soon to be 5 year old who has been doing gymnastics since she was 3. Originally we did not take it too seriously and just used it as exercise because we were already at the gym for her big sister. She quickly progressed out of the tots classes and picks up skills with ease. Around 4 years old our previous gym had her start working on level 1 and 2 skills and she was going 4/5 days a week one hour a day where they trained something different each day. We were very happy with their program and she was working towards the competitive track that her big sister is on. She actually thrived in the more structured program and enjoyed it more. When she was in the tots program she would get bored, sit down watch others, roll on the floor so on. As soon as the gym moved her up with bigger kids she started working on skills and paying attention even asking to go to gymnastics more days.

The problem is we moved and do not have the option in our lives to move back at the moment. We found a new gym as soon as we moved. My older daughter made the team and it thriving; she has gotten stronger and learned many new skills. She is 9 years old and practicing 16 hours a week. I honestly think they do a great job with the team. My little one is not thriving; I have tried to express this to the gym in more round about manner and they either are not getting my point or just do not care. I want to be respectful and I do not want to be a pushy mom. However at this point we are getting quite frustrated with the path the little one is on.

She was 4.5 when we moved to the new gym. Her skills were too advanced for tots classes which is what they said her age was. However, they said she was not quite strong enough to make the pre pre-team. She may have just had a bad try out. They put her in rec classes to gain some strength. They wanted her to attend the rec class once a week for an hour. First of all going from 4/5 hours a week to 1 hour a week is not going to make her stronger, she will get weaker! Second, when I expressed the want for more gym time for her they suggested more rec classes. We tried Ninja, it is mostly boys and she is not interested. We tried signing up and paying for a second one of the same class she is in; however it is the same exact lesson plan for the week. Then she ends up doing the same thing twice a week and is bored and still not stronger. Still only two hours a week there; she has a lot of energy and wants to do gymnastics!

She has not really been working new skills or getting the personal attention she got at our old gym and is getting bored. She complains at home that her big sister gets more days at the gym and gets to complete. As a parent I tried suggesting she practice at home for a while so she could improve and move up. She did this happily for a while (probably with bad form!) but then as a 5 year old got tired of it when she did not move up. She already has most all of her level 2 skills at 5 years old and was working towards level 3 skills. She basically goes to the gym twice a week messes around, pulls on the teachers shirt for him to watch her do a skill she has done for 6 months now, he gives her a thumbs up and then she stands there and looks around. She has had at least 5 different teachers for her rec class since we have been here (6 months). I would expect them to at least correct her form or give her a new drill to work on next. I have tried to be supportive of all the teachers as they are young and have big groups of kids to work with. I even bribed my daughter and told her she could have a sticker or whatever at home if when I sat and watched her entire class she worked the whole time on skills even if her teacher was not looking. I watched her go through an entire rotation of bars skills doing about 10 of each skill and looking at me for a thumbs up each time, then rotating. Other kids needed spots and the teacher stopped and helped them. Because my daughter has the skills he just skipped right over her. We have also tried to sign her up for gymnastics holiday camps and clinics and they keep telling us she is not old enough. But how is she supposed to move up to the path she wants to be on if you only take her 1 or 2 hours a week? Besides the fact that this kid has endless amounts of energy.

As parents and athletes ourselves we feel she could be very good at whatever sport we put her in if the coaches pay attention to her. I have seen 6 year olds competing at meets. However, if she is not even on the pre team we are a bit discouraged. Should I be more direct and simply ask why they have not moved her up and tell them we are quite frustrated? Should I look for a different gym just for my little one? But then does this get awkward if the older one wants to stay at this gym? Should we find another sport she loves where the coaches will put the time into her? She really is a natural athlete and enjoys it. Am I overreacting?

Thoughts are much appriciated to put this in perspective! Thank you!
I just wanted to say that my younger daughter was similar at that age. However even though her body was ready for more her mind (ability to make corrections) and attention to details was not caught up with her body at age 5. It was closer to 6 that it started coming together.
 
You really don't need to specialize your 5 year old in any one activity. It's OK to do swimming once a week, gymnastics once a week, a dance class, a basketball team, piano lessons, all those things help form well rounded athletes.

Since you have an older child on team you know when the hours get that intense they no longer have time to take on much of anything else. Why not let your child experience different things while she can and when her body gets to where it needs to be on its own then she can choose whatever sport she is passionate about.

I get it she is passionate about gymnastics and that is all she wants to do, but maybe just help her world expand a little while you can.
 
Have you looked at the pre-team from your gym? It's kind of crazy that a kid doing 4-5 days of gymnastics/ week at your old gym is not strong enough for a pre-team now. What did she do for those 5 hours? How is her form? For most programs-they look at general strength and are looking for potential in a pre-team athlete. 4.5 is the perfect age for most pre-teams-but maybe their PT is older? If she's that naturally athletic- a decent amount of natural strength usually goes hand and hand with that talent. I would talk to the head coach and find out what is missing- because there has to be something missing. Ask for honestly as to what strength/skills she is missing (if you want it.). More time in the gym isn't always the answer for this age group.
 
That is frustrating. There is often a big disconnect between the rec side of a gym and the team side. I would talk to your older daughter’s coach and ask for advice. Ask if she might be willing to do a private lesson with her to give you some feedback on what she needs to improve. If your daughter really is ready to move to preteam, the team coach will see it and they will tell you (unless there is some toxic politics between rec and team and they have to be careful what they say).

If you can’t get anywhere at your gym, I’d definitely take her to another gym. You can always come back when the is ready to try out for preteam.

Also, when it comes to developing strength in a child that age, I highly recommend swimming lessons. Swimming is a necessary safety skill and it can be hard to fit lessons into your schedule once a child starts team. My son came to gymnastics from competitive swimming at 7-years-old and they took one look at how strong he was at his first trial rec class and they put him on team immediately. He was a lot stronger from swimming than the kids coming out of preteam.

Good luck!
I was going to recommend swimming too! I always recommend a complimentary sport vs multiple rec classes a week. Especially for boys, but for girls too!
 
Also- pre-team and lower level gymnastics is boring and repetitive. If a child isn't enjoying the repetition in a regular class (and is maybe voicing this?) then our staff would not recommend that child for a pre-team as that structure is mostly conditioning and learning basics the correct way over and over. If a child just wants to do skills- classes are the route to go. That being said-while a child this age isn't going to receive individualized attention all the time at most gyms- she should be receiving some. I like the idea of asking if a team coach can do an evaluation to get a 3rd opinion.
 

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