Cpn 2013-14

[Fliptwisttumble]

Me too. There are 2 at our gym, plus two Aspires who aspire to be Elite by the end of the year

 

[Canadian_gym_mom]

Thanks much! I'm curious to know how many Elites will be there!

We are curious too. Only one of the five from last year is back, but there were around 30 aspires last year. I could think of quite a few who might make the jump, who did aspire for 2 years or who did really well. My dd is moving up, so that's 2 plus 2 others on here...

Oh and to add, dds coach said that this year Aspire is closer to what Elite used to be.

 

[Fliptwisttumble]

Oh and to add, dds coach said that this year Aspire is closer to what Elite used to be.

That is exactly what HC said at our gym.... this year's Aspire is like Elite the year before, and this year's Elite is last year's with the some of the bonus built in.

I tried to figure out how many, but it's too hard. There were alot more Aspires last year than the year before. But with Elite slightly more difficult, perhaps some can't make the jump. But the difference between Elite (without bonus) and Aspire is smaller, so some (like my DD) may have chosen to go direct to Elite and forego Aspire altogether (she is 9, so this is the first of two years for her in Elite).

So minimum 5 kids that we know of..... could be quite a few more. Guess I'll get a text from DH the day of, as I can't go. And given they can join or switch anytime, the numbers may change to provincials.

 

[Canadian_gym_mom]

That is exactly what HC said at our gym.... this year's Aspire is like Elite the year before, and this year's Elite is last year's with the some of the bonus built in.

I tried to figure out how many, but it's too hard. There were alot more Aspires last year than the year before. But with Elite slightly more difficult, perhaps some can't make the jump. But the difference between Elite (without bonus) and Aspire is smaller, so some (like my DD) may have chosen to go direct to Elite and forego Aspire altogether (she is 9, so this is the first of two years for her in Elite).

So minimum 5 kids that we know of..... could be quite a few more. Guess I'll get a text from DH the day of, as I can't go. And given they can join or switch anytime, the numbers may change to provincials.

Oh definitely. My dd didn't compete in Ontario until provincials last year due to an injury. And my dd won't have any bars bonus for the first meet.

I wonder why such dramatic changes this year? I do know that in provinces like Quebec and BC there are A Lot more kids in the CPN program, so maybe they were trying to decrease the numbers? Making it much closer to Novice?

I was searching around for info on the program, and saw that BC has a Pre-CPN program for younger kids and it looked really great.

Oh I know some of the girls from one of the clubs with lots of Aspires last year competed at Burlington Cup in the level 8 and some in level 9, so it will be interesting to see where they choose to go. Also, dd said that the 3 girls she went to Easterns with last year planned to move to Elite, but then again that was before the changes were made.

It's all speculation until it happens!

 

[Fliptwisttumble]

I wonder why such dramatic changes this year? I do know that in provinces like Quebec and BC there are A Lot more kids in the CPN program, so maybe they were trying to decrease the numbers? Making it much closer to Novice?

I think you are right - to make it an easier jump to National Novice. Say for example last year you competed the min. required layout half on floor in Elite, no bonus. That doesn't move you very close to the requirements for novice, which is what I am told the CPN program is for. Nor is a bar routine where you do bonus elements separately very realistic..... suddenly you have to incorporate a significantly longer routine then also start adding release moves, etc. So that makes it closer.

My hope is that DD is able to cleanly compete this year and get actual competition experience. Next year she can rock the bar and floor bonus

 

[Canadian_gym_mom]

Oh but we will have a closer idea about a week or two before, when the schedule comes out. It usually gives the number of girls in the flight.

 

[Kidsgym]

Our gym will have at least 3 Aspire and for sure two elite.

 

[kitkat]

I agree that moving the bar skills in the routine will help transition better to Novice. I suspect that this year may be a transition year for Elite as most kids would have only been starting to practice front giants, toe ups etc and not necessarily putting them in a routine. My daughter was one of those kids who had the bar skills outside the routine but I think she could have put them in the routine had it been required. I think you will see a lot more kids next year with bonus skills in the bar routine. Just my thoughts as I had a gymnast in elite last year.
Looking at the skills required for elite this year - it is certainly closing up the gap somewhat but it is still a pretty big jump to the Novice skills.
I loved the CPN program. I wished my daughter could have been in it from age 8 or 9 rather then 10 being her first year. Great program.

I think you are right - to make it an easier jump to National Novice. Say for example last year you competed the min. required layout half on floor in Elite, no bonus. That doesn't move you very close to the requirements for novice, which is what I am told the CPN program is for. Nor is a bar routine where you do bonus elements separately very realistic..... suddenly you have to incorporate a significantly longer routine then also start adding release moves, etc. So that makes it closer.

My hope is that DD is able to cleanly compete this year and get actual competition experience. Next year she can rock the bar and floor bonus

 

[Canadian_gym_mom]

I agree that moving the bar skills in the routine will help transition better to Novice. I suspect that this year may be a transition year for Elite as most kids would have only been starting to practice front giants, toe ups etc and not necessarily putting them in a routine. My daughter was one of those kids who had the bar skills outside the routine but I think she could have put them in the routine had it been required. I think you will see a lot more kids next year with bonus skills in the bar routine. Just my thoughts as I had a gymnast in elite last year.
Looking at the skills required for elite this year - it is certainly closing up the gap somewhat but it is still a pretty big jump to the Novice skills.
I loved the CPN program. I wished my daughter could have been in it from age 8 or 9 rather then 10 being her first year. Great program.

So is your dd going novice or going to provincial? She did so well last year at Easterns, but like you said it's a big jump.

Dd is doing some of the last year bonus skills sometimes, but not yet in the routine.

 

[Gymhocmom]

Me too. There are 2 at our gym, plus two Aspires who aspire to be Elite by the end of the year

We have 2 Elite and 1 Aspire. How many do they take to National Stream Cup?

 

[Fliptwisttumble]

Last year it was top 6..... Elites only, unless they don't have 6, then they take Aspires.

 

[Gymhocmom]

Last year it was top 6..... Elites only, unless they don't have 6, then they take Aspires.

By the sounds of it, looks like they will have much more than 6 Thanks for all the info!

 

[Kidsgym]

I asked the same question about aspire going to NSC and they can still go if club decides to take them ( not representing province but club team) correct me ladies if I am wrong

 

[kitkat]

My daughter is doing novice but not competing until later on in the year. She will not be trying for national stream cup this year her coaches do not think she is ready. The goal for her this year is Canadians so they feel holding her off until they feel she is ready is better. The girls she will be competing against this year will be second year novice and will have tons of bonus. Although she has gotten a lot of new skills already they want more. We are ok not competing at stream cup. She was on team Ontario last year for both (stream cup and easterns) and had a blast. Maybe next year.

She did fantastic at Easterns. It was her best meet until she fell on a full turn on beam. She was sitting at third until then. Fall placed her 6th. Her video of easterns is below.

Kidsgym - yes anyone can go to Stream Cup - you just go as a member rather then representing Team Ontario. When my daughter went there was one girl who made team Ontario but chose not to go with the team. Its really just another competition.

So is your dd going novice or going to provincial? She did so well last year at Easterns, but like you said it's a big jump.

Dd is doing some of the last year bonus skills sometimes, but not yet in the routine.

 

[Fliptwisttumble]

I asked the same question about aspire going to NSC and they can still go if club decides to take them ( not representing province but club team) correct me ladies if I am wrong

I heard this same thing, but our club doesn't send kids other than those who make the Ontario team.