@Tmacs --Thanks for that! It's nice to hear there is good camaraderie in climbing as well. I honestly wasn't sure. It has a totally different vibe. The nice thing is that DD was invited to the "developmental elite" climbing team even though she's a beginner due to her upper body strength, coordination and work ethic. This means she will immediately be with more serious climbers, and will practice at least 3 days per week (I *think* there is a 4th practice day for speed). The program is good, I think, with many national level climbers -- and (bonus!) two days per week she will be at a gym location which is only 10 minutes from our house. Do you mind if I reach out via DM in the future with climbing questions??