WAG Half on half off vault

[GymnastPotterhead]

For a half on half off vault, what way do you twist? If I do a right round off (for the half on part) would I twist left or right after the block (for the half off)?

 

[Mthegymqueen]

If you think about where your stomach faces first on the half on, when you do the half off, it should face the opposite way



If you look in this video I found, her back faces the camera first, and then on the half off, her stomach faces the camera.

(Video and picture credits: MoosicIsMyLife98)

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

Thanks! This is what I thought and was originally training, but my coach disagrees and said that if you have a right half on you should be twisting right (so stomach will face the same way both times)

 

[Carly]

I just watched a video of my gymnast doing hers. She did it the same way as the video.

 

[Mthegymqueen]

my coach disagrees and said that if you have a right half on you should be twisting right (so stomach will face the same way both times)

Maybe it doesn't matter what way you twist.

I used to twist the way you twist now, until MY coach told me it was supposed to be the opposite. lol

 

[gymnastics12312]

For a half on half off vault, what way do you twist? If I do a right round off (for the half on part) would I twist left or right after the block (for the half off)?

I’m a righty and I twist left

 

[HopefulGymnast]

I don't know the US codes, but at least according to the code of points (international/elite), both ways are fine. However, I've had coaches who think you have to turn the half out in the other direction than the half in.

 

[Splat]

From what I've learned with he 1/4 on 3/4 off lefties need to twist to the right. It you want to twist to the left you have to the get to a full 1/2 on or it starts at a lower value

 

[HopefulGymnast]

From what I've learned with he 1/4 on 3/4 off lefties need to twist to the right. It you want to twist to the left you have to the get to a full 1/2 on or it starts at a lower value

I suspect that's because the 1/4 on 3/4 off is meant as a Tsukahara timer. (It's not in the international/elite code of points so I don't know about it, our country uses FIG code at all levels.) I expect they count it as a tsukahara group vault?
The 1/2 on 1/2 off is listed in the handspring group, and since it's specifically listed as 1/2 on 1/2 off, it'll have to be an entire half turn on. The exact text in the code of points is:
Handspring fwd with ½ turn (180°) on – ½ turn (180°) off (in either direction)

But yeah, interesting think you've brought up.

 

[Mthegymqueen]

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I found this video today, it explains that a tsuk switches directions in twists, while a kaz continues in the same twisting direction (this video is meant for flipping and twisting, but it should stay the same for just twisting)

 

[raenndrops]

From what I've learned with he 1/4 on 3/4 off lefties need to twist to the right. It you want to twist to the left you have to the get to a full 1/2 on or it starts at a lower value

I think, from what I have seen, that the 1/4 on-3/4 off just has to turn the same way for both parts.
Unlike the 1/2-1/2 which can be done tusk or kaz style, the 1/4-3/4 needs to be done kaz style or you will be facing the wrong way.

 

[superNova08]

My coaches would call the vault I was training a 1/2 on 1/2 off but it was really more like a 1/4 on 3/4 off.

 

[raenndrops]

My coaches would call the vault I was training a 1/2 on 1/2 off but it was really more like a 1/4 on 3/4 off.

In the Xcel Code, 1/2-1/2 & 1/4-3/4 are the same skill

 

[superNova08]

In the Xcel Code, 1/2-1/2 & 1/4-3/4 are the same skill

Yea, when I started coaching I discovered that.