Wow, I feel as if I have been asking questions like crazy lately, but you guys are all incredibly helpful! Anyway, I have started working on my level four vault, and I am not coming up into a full vertical in my handstand, and end up piking the vault, which I know will cause me nothing but a bunch of butt landings at least when it comes time to work my fhs vault on the table. So any hints or suggestions as to how to pull myself vertically, and not pike so much? I realize I just started doing this last week, but I would like to compete a fhs vault by next season. Thanks a bunch!!!!!