Women Level 8?

[kassgymnast_]

Last year competed 7, this year 6 (don't know why). Anyways, would these routines sustain being a level 8 (which I am supposed to compete) or should I just go 7 again?

VT:

fhs, 1/2 on 1/1 off, tsuk in tuck position

UB:

Kip, CHS, clearhip (to possible HS), Squat on or toe on to HB, Kip, clearhip (2x if needed) Flyaway full in tucked position (I don't have giants yet, not sure if I will have them)

BB:

Series- bhs bwo, tick tock bhs, bhs bhs
Single Skills- side aerial, side somi, Back tuck
Jumps- Split jumps, tuck jumps, maybe a straddle jump, split from side
Turns- Full turn, 3/2 turn, full turn with leg in horizontal
Dismount- Bhs BT, bwo BT, cartwheel BT, Step front layout, punch front pike

FX:

Front Tumbling passes: fhs front pike, fhs front layout
Back Tumbling passes: Full, 3/2, whip through to full, layout
Jumps: Shushonova (idk how to spell it) Split 1/1, straddle 1/1, tuck 3/2
Turns: 2/1 turn, 1/1 turn with leg in horizontal, 3/2 turn with leg in horizontal, 1/1 turn with leg UP


Is there really anything else that needs to be added or things I might not need or I'm not allowed to have? Would I be able to score relatively good? Should I just not go 8? My floor is relatively good and all set for level 8 but I'm unsure about the other events...

 

[kayjaybe]

I believe you need a direction change on bars. That can be done through a release move or by a pirouette. Also, your bars skill will suffer greatly in both L7 & L8 if your casts aren't getting super-close to handstand.

I don't know if giants are required but I haven't seen a L8 routine at all this year without them.

The tucked tsuk is a 9.8 start value but my dd has been scoring well with it all season - getting low 9's and often out-scoring girls doing a pike (which has a 10 SV).

Floor I believe you need a double-sumi --- so 2 hands-free skills in a single pass. I'm not sure by your explanation if any of them have that.

Not sure at all about the beam requirements.

I'm just a parent so hopefully someone else will come along that can confirm.

 

[ayyyrial]

Above poster is correct that you need a pass on floor with two or more saltos connected directly or indirectly. A whip through to layout would count, or a front tuck - front tuck or something of that nature.

You may also have problems on bars because you can't count the same skill more than twice for credit. So you can't do 3 clear hip circles for credit. You need to have 4 Bs total in your routine - that's why most people do giants. You would also need either a release move or a HS pirouette. In order to get those Bs, you could do two clear hips, your dismount, and an additional B skill (i.e. a pirouette or release). You might still get composition deductions with that routine since it is expected to do giants at L8 and you aren't showing variety in your circling elements.

 

[ayyyrial]

Wait, aren't you AGA? People are probably responding based on USAG JO rules unless otherwise specified.

 

[kassgymnast_]

Wait, aren't you AGA? People are probably responding based on USAG JO rules unless otherwise specified.

Yes I do compete AGA. But I also compete USAG.

 

[ayyyrial]

Ok! For USAG, you would need a pass on floor with two saltos (like a whip through to back layout, or a front pike-front pike or something of that nature), as the poster above mentioned.

You also need either a pirouette or a release move on bars. You could do a HS 1/2 pirouette, a straddle back, a bail, a hecht to the high bar. You will also need 4 Bs on bars and you can't count a clear hip more than twice - which is why most people do giants. So for your 4 Bs you could do two clear hips, your flyaway 1/1 dismount, and also your pirouette/release.

 

[gfgymnast]

vault- tsuk tuck would give u a 9.8 sv, but if it's performed clean you will still be competitive with it
bars- you need a pirouette, and you could do two free hips on the hb into a B value dismount and hit all requirements but to avoid a composition deduction you should aim to get giants, a stalder or a toe hand
beam- any of your series would meet requirement but i suggest doing bhs bhs to avoid up to level deduction, you need a forward or sideways skill, this can be covered by doing a cartwheel/round-off into you dismount or by doing a fwo or the tic tock before you series, i would do you backtuck and you need a full turn, and a 180 degree split, most common is a switch leap
floor- you need a double salto pass and i suggest including at least a full to avoid up to level deduction

 

[gfgymnast]

for floor you could start with your whip to full, then fhs front layout and end with 3/2, do a double turn and you need to find a leap pass that your good at meeting a 180 degree split

 

[NY Dad]

Yes I do compete AGA. But I also compete USAG.

Is it common for gyms to allow competing both AGA & JO? How would I that work? Practice with both teams?

 

[kassgymnast_]

Is it common for gyms to allow competing both AGA & JO? How would I that work? Practice with both teams?

Well we work skills year round, since most people in USAG (it's a select amount, everyone is in AGA), their level is similar to their AGA level. Example: I am a sr. 9 similar to levels 6-9. I'll be competing level 7 or 8 next year. Being this, our skills are basically the same. We just have to change up our routines a little bit. We normally do this a week or two before the USAG meet