MAG question about false scissors and scissors on PH

[profmom]

OK, I think that after a long-winded technical explanation, I get the difference (the Reader's Digest version, as I understand it, is that in the false scissors the legs don't switch places and in the scissors, they do). So based on how the JO progressions work now, am I correct that, while the false scissors is part of the JO L6 routine, the scissors would not be permissible in competition until a boy is on the horse with pommels, so as a 13+ L8 or L9? To my clueless eyes, it seems like a pretty natural progression and I am wondering why it wasn't a bonus for L6 or something like that. Or is it one of those things that's just ridiculously hard but doesn't look like it? (Says the person who, after an even more long-winded and more technical explanation, now UNDERSTANDS why a BLIND CHANGE is so much HARDER than JUST a pirouette, geez, Mom.)

 

[skschlag]

From D:
Scissors are harder because you have to switch your legs in the air above the horse. and when you finish one leg swing, the other is coming in front. More continuous.....

But yes, they don't use them again until they get handles back.

 

[profmom]

Is that part of why D was so annoyed about the change last year putting off the introduction of the pommels?

 

[skschlag]

Little bit he had those, spindle, stockli and somethign else on the handles...lol

Now..I have no idea if waht I typed made sense. I was deciphering "finger legs" on a chair

 

[Sperkowsky]

Little bit he had those, spindle, stockli and somethign else on the handles...lol

Now..I have no idea if waht I typed made sense. I was deciphering "finger legs" on a chair

Umm spindles and stocklis aren't skills you would so on the handles lol they are leather skills for the most part

 

[skschlag]

pretty sure he hurt his shoulder doing a stockli on the handles. spindle he did with the handles on...

 

[Sperkowsky]

pretty sure he hurt his shoulder doing a stockli on the handles. spindle he did with the handles on...

Handles on the pommels yes but he's not on the handles he's on the leather

 

[skschlag]

Right..for the spindle. For the stockli- he is on the handles. Like this:

 

[Sperkowsky]

Right..for the spindle. For the stockli- he is on the handles. Like this:

Well yes a stockli is possible on the handles and so is a spindle but no way a kid his level is doing them

 

[skschlag]

yup. he was doing a stockli on the handles last summer.

 

[Sperkowsky]

yup. he was doing a stockli on the handles last summer.

Wow he's going to be really good on pommels if he is doing stocklis already especially if he had them consistently good for him

 

[skschlag]

Pommels is his thing He has magyar/sivado, can get his wu sometimes, but not consistently yet. those are without the handles still.