WAG Discussion of abuse in USAG - Nassar

[SMH]

The "apology" was obviously total lies - I like the fact that the judge exposed it using his own word

Yes he gave his sad little apology which the judge then smashed to pieces with his OWN words.

 

[Ali'sMom]

Got it. The tweets made it sound like she asked him about his plea and he waffled on the facts. Wish I could be watching this.

Judge asked him if he wanted to change his plea, and he said no.
Then she said "Are you guilty?"
and he muttered "I stand by my plea".
Coward.

I may not have the exact wording, but that's the gist of it.

 

[gymgal]

what exactly does 40-175 years mean? That's an awfully large range there? I know he got 60 for the pornography and forty would still give him 100 but it seems to me the judge could that just thrown the book at him and gave him the 175 flat? Could she not have done that?

 

[bogwoppit]

Did the judge say that he was still treating prisoners in jail??? Did I hear correctly?

Yes she did, then I loved when she told him to just stop. He is totally deluded. I suppose we should be grateful he did not plead insanity.

 

[amiandjim]

I’m still in shock he had the nerve to write “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.” I mean, what?!?!?!?! He and Geddert are the same...taking zero responsibility for the pain they have caused.

 

[Flyaway]

USOC apology

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Key points: 1. directly called for all USAG directors to resign: "This includes a full turnover of leadership from the past, which means that all current USAG directors must resign."

2. will not decertify USAG at this time but "But we will pursue decertification if USA Gymnastics does not fully embrace the necessary changes in their governance structure along with other mandated changes under review right now."

 

[rjb123]

Did the judge say that he was still treating prisoners in jail??? Did I hear correctly?

I heard that too. I literally screamed out loud at my computer at that. WTH?!

 

[Flippin'A]

what exactly does 40-175 years mean? That's an awfully large range there? I know he got 60 for the pornography and forty would still give him 100 but it seems to me the judge could that just thrown the book at him and gave him the 175 flat? Could she not have done that?

It means he becomes eligible for parole after 40 but won't be guaranteed release until after 175 years, so never. Of course, all of that is after the 60 years he already had so odds are good he will die before serving any of this. And she couldn't have given him more than 40 minimum because those were the terms of the agreement when he pled guilty. She gave him the harshest sentence possible without giving him the chance to go back on his plea.

 

[GymFan96]

I can’t believe he was still claiming in his letter that everything he did was “medical not sexual.” If that was the case why didn’t he use gloves, get consent, inform the parents, have a chaperone etc. Who exactly did he mean that letter for? It went to the judge but he’s calling her “she” and bashing her.

 

[bogwoppit]

USOC apology

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Key point: directly called for all USAG directors to resign: "This includes a full turnover of leadership from the past, which means that all current USAG directors must resign."

More than USAG have bothered to say. I wonder if they even went to court today?

 

[profmom]

Did the judge say that he was still treating prisoners in jail??? Did I hear correctly?

Yes. I'm guessing he offered his services. He is seriously ill. Oh, I don't doubt that he knows ways to relieve pain, but he has no business ever touching another human being again.

On edit, Bog's question is an excellent one that I hope gets answered.

 

[bogwoppit]

Yes. I'm guessing he offered his services. He is seriously ill. Oh, I don't doubt that he knows ways to relieve pain, but he has no business ever touching another human being again.

I hope lots of prisoners enjoy touching him.

 

[amiandjim]

USOC apology

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Key points: 1. directly called for all USAG directors to resign: "This includes a full turnover of leadership from the past, which means that all current USAG directors must resign."

2. will not decertify USAG at this time but "But we will pursue decertification if USA Gymnastics does not fully embrace the necessary changes in their governance structure along with other mandated changes under review right now."

Do you think that includes Liukin?

 

[Flyaway]

3. launching an independent investigation: "This investigation will include both USAG and the USOC, and we believe USAG will cooperate fully. We will make the results public."

4. supporting survivors: " Team USA safe sport assault victims and survivors need access to testing, treatment and counseling. The USOC will devote substantial funds to help provide these resources to victims and survivors. We are working on the details of how this funding will become available to athletes and will communicate them soon."

 

[rjb123]

Do you think that includes Liukin?

That is a good question...do they mean "official directors" like with a title of director or people who are directors over certain things? What is his title, officially?

 

[amiandjim]

I believe his title is National Team Coordinator. So, yes I would be curious who that includes. Rhonda Faehn certainly would be included right?

 

[bogwoppit]

Do you think that includes Liukin?

I doubt that includes him, as he is not a director. But cleaning house needs to be done thoroughly.

 

[bogwoppit]

I believe his title is National Team Coordinator. So, yes I would be curious who that includes. Rhonda Faehn certainly would be included right?

I think it would.

 

[skschlag]

That is a good question...do they mean "official directors" like with a title of director or people who are directors over certain things? What is his title, officially?

and are they including the new men's program director?

 

[profmom]

I hope lots of prisoners enjoy touching him.

There I cannot go. No living, sentient entity should have their bodily integrity violated in this way, no matter what they have done.

I do wish USAG had done a purge without having to be ordered to do so. USOC is facing the same liability risk, but they have now put themselves in a much stronger position in the public eye by taking the initiative to come down on USAG.