Coaches Double back hip circle vs 2 back hip circles in a row

[cocoslc12]

Hello coaches!
I have a bit of a strange question. A fellow younger coach of mine was coaching xcel gold bars and asked one of the girls to show her double back hip circles. Another older coach immediately went off on her, telling her that wasn't the correct terminology, that it's called 2 back hip circles in a row. They got into an actual argument about this, the younger coach didn't understand what the big deal was and honestly neither do I at this point but maybe someone can enlighten me! thanks!

 

[raenndrops]

A "double back hip circle" would TECHNICALLY be a single skill, while 2 back hip circles in a row would be 2 skills.

 

[sun]

I guess two back hip circles in a row could mean a single back hip plus a single back hip. So a pause after the first one, then another cast back hip.

...but it could also be reversed, so I don't see the need for the terminology policing. If someone wanted to show me two backhandsprings in a row, I would assume they meant a double backhandspring.

People can have different names for things - I call it a front watermelon instead of a 3/4 front salto in tuck position followed by a back drop with return to feet on trampoline.

I don't like gym terminology elitism - my peaceful protest against it is calling everything that goes 360 degrees vertically a "flip". Pullover? flip. Forward roll? flip. Front hip circle? that's a front flip. Backhandsprings are back flips. Gymnasts laugh and say "that's not a flip!" and I make my case, or add words like "ok, a back flip with a tucked candle in the middle" if we're doing back tucks.

 

[cocoslc12]

I guess two back hip circles in a row could mean a single back hip plus a single back hip. So a pause after the first one, then another cast back hip.

...but it could also be reversed, so I don't see the need for the terminology policing. If someone wanted to show me two backhandsprings in a row, I would assume they meant a double backhandspring.

People can have different names for things - I call it a front watermelon instead of a 3/4 front salto in tuck position followed by a back drop with return to feet on trampoline.

I don't like gym terminology elitism - my peaceful protest against it is calling everything that goes 360 degrees vertically a "flip". Pullover? flip. Forward roll? flip. Front hip circle? that's a front flip. Backhandsprings are back flips. Gymnasts laugh and say "that's not a flip!" and I make my case, or add words like "ok, a back flip with a tucked candle in the middle" if we're doing back tucks.

I like that!! Yes I agree and totally understand coaches have preferences when it comes to terminology which is fine. I just don't see the point in getting riled up about it.

 

[raenndrops]

I guess two back hip circles in a row could mean a single back hip plus a single back hip. So a pause after the first one, then another cast back hip.

...but it could also be reversed, so I don't see the need for the terminology policing. If someone wanted to show me two backhandsprings in a row, I would assume they meant a double backhandspring.

People can have different names for things - I call it a front watermelon instead of a 3/4 front salto in tuck position followed by a back drop with return to feet on trampoline.

I don't like gym terminology elitism - my peaceful protest against it is calling everything that goes 360 degrees vertically a "flip". Pullover? flip. Forward roll? flip. Front hip circle? that's a front flip. Backhandsprings are back flips. Gymnasts laugh and say "that's not a flip!" and I make my case, or add words like "ok, a back flip with a tucked candle in the middle" if we're doing back tucks.

double back hip circle / connected 2 back hip circles can't have a cast in between because the cast would break the connection.

I agree with "I don't like gym terminology elitism" ... of course, for years, there was a "potty pose" on the beam in old level 4, lol.

stride circle forward ... middle circle ... mill circle ... windmill ... windy = all the same

I call a double backhandspring / 2 backhandsprings in a row 2bhs.
2 front tucks = 2FT
front double tuck = DFT or FDT or F2T

 

[NYGymfamily]

When DD was in gold she called it a double bhc, I guess it depends on the person though.

 

[GymnastPotterhead]

I would think of two BHCs in a row as cast back hip circle cast back hip circle and double back hip circle as cast back hip circle back hip circle.