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We have that age group system here, our competitions are split into two divisions; 'overs' and 'unders'. For STEP 1, the age for unders is 5-7, and overs are 8+, STEP 2 is 6-8 for unders and 9+ for overs, STEP 3 is 7-9 for unders, 10+ for overs and you get the picture. Makes awards so much quicker because you don't have to sit through a billion age groups, only 2.I would eliminate age groups. Seriously. I would replace them with competitions being split into two or four groups. Older/younger at the halfway age mark of a comp (or a set age)
Our age groups are build into the levels. Senior G and junior G compete the same skills, but senior G is considered a division lower than junior G.I would eliminate age groups. Seriously. I would replace them with competitions being split into two or four groups.
Competitive groups by hours practiced.
A besides a minimum score, a mandatory move up score, as in you need to be done with this level.
For meets, divisions that include years at level or previous scores.
Limits on hours practiced.
Limit awards to top 20-25%
So basically make it more like usaigc. I actually agree, mostly. Limiting hours is a pretty worthless proposition in my opinion. They do that in IGC now and I know it’s a rule that both impossible to enforce and widely flouted.Allow kids to compete different events in different levels, like T and T
Based on what I’ve been told while casually chatting with parents from other teams at IGC meets, this is very true. And I’m talking about Copper 1 (approx JO2).Limiting hours is a pretty worthless proposition in my opinion. They do that in IGC now and I know it’s a rule that both impossible to enforce and widely flouted.
I agree. I could push it to a 37... but around here, I don't see 37s very often.I think there should be mandatory move up scores, but I would set it at a 37. Everyone saying it is dangerous or will push girls out- why could they not simply train until ready without the pressure of competing or compete the next level with a lower start value? Just because those things aren’t common doesn’t mean they’re dangerous or harmful. In my opinion, of course. I think if you’re scoring 37+ then you really have nothing to gain from a level except medals, and I don’t think that’s necessarily the right focus, especially if you’re working toward a new level.
Level 8 does not HAVE to flip a vault. I know of gymnasts who have won L8 meets (not just at YMCA Meets) with a FHS vault.I am not a fan of the mandatory move up, especially at higher levels. There are many reasons why a girl could score a 36 twice at level 7 but not be ready for level 8. Maybe she cant flip a vault and doesn't have a turn/release on bars. She could have a beautiful layout but not be able to connect two saltos in a single pass.
So would that girl just not be allowed to compete the next year at all? That rule would push girls out of gym when they get stuck, and that isn't something I would want to encourage.
Personally I think that mandatory move up scores in optionals are dangerous. Especially at a 36. I know plenty of girls who got a 36 in L9 this year once or twice who will be repeating. And they should. these upper optional levels are HARD and forcing someone to move up based on arbitrary scores is setting them up to fail or get hurt. Also, having "high" or "low" hour divisions in optionals is also not realistic. *Maybe* in compulsory levels, where there are so many more kids, but in optionals it is just not practical in many states- plus there are post season meets to consider. I think a lot of this sounds good to people who want a more recreational type of program, but that is what Xcel is all about- lower hours, less $$ but still a competitive program. Put these restrictions in place in that program to force gym to use it properly- that makes more sense. The reality is that you will never make it "fair" - but you will never make LIFE fair. Trying to micro manage this stuff is not practical and in the end doesn't do much good. Lets focus on the big issues and make sure that gyms are safe and free from abuse - not waste our time on hour limits and move up scores.