- Sep 26, 2011
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Hmm...the meet she is a part of is in Michigan, so I guess I believed she was living there or had her practice through there. So I guess short answer is, I have no ideaWhy Michigan? Isn't she from Arizona?
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Hmm...the meet she is a part of is in Michigan, so I guess I believed she was living there or had her practice through there. So I guess short answer is, I have no ideaWhy Michigan? Isn't she from Arizona?
Actually you can do that. Most states allow non-licensed psychologists to practice a limited amount of hours in their state. Psychologists who do this actually protect their license in their base state, because their licensing board won't go after them for something they are doing in another state. The licensing board in the state where they are doing visitor work won't come after them because they are not licensed in their state.That's the other thing. She can't run around from state to state practicing psychology unless she has a license to practice for that state. So she should have been licensed in Ohio if she was working for Mary Lee Tracy and doing individual therapy sessions. She can do her general videos and online products etc, but to see individual kids in person as clients who were paying her for therapy sessions is different. I'll bet she wasn't licensed in all of the states she did therapy sessions in. It's pretty incredible what this sport has managed to get away with for years totally unchecked.
ok, according to what's discussed in this podcast (around min 23:00), she is not board certified
If she‘s not licensed or board certified, then she is not truly a psychologist. I’m not even sure how she could call herself a counselor or therapist without being licensed as an LCSW or LPC. What a gross misrepresentation. While her program may have helped some people, it sounds like she is pretty unethical and colluded with abusive coaches for her own profit. Yuck.
@gymjunkie Licensed psychologists really can’t do that. You have to apply for a temporary permit to practice in a state outside of the one in which you are licensed. The state boards have been a bit more lenient with the practice of telehealth across state lines during COVID. But lenient means they will approve a temporary permit quickly. You can lose your license in your primary state for practicing in another state without permission from that state’s board.
Ick. I believe that. Totally defeats the purpose of having a regulatory board, doesn’t it? Yes, I know in each state the board sets their own rules, but APA hands down practice guidelines. In our state, someone had their license suspended for practicing in another state without a permit or license. In ethics classes, they pounded it into our heads that we couldn’t call ourselves “psychologists” without a license. Since most people don’t know the difference between a psychiatrist, psychologist, licensed counselor, or social worker, I guess that’s how people like Doc Ali get away with misrepresenting themselves.That must not be true in every state. In my state, an out of state licensed psychologist was brought before the board (because of a complaint filed by an individual) for practicing too many hours in their state. Without going into too many details, the board simply encouraged her to get licensed since she was working so many hours in our state and imposed no sanctions whatsoever. They also dismissed all of the additional complaints brought to their attention because "she wasn't licensed in their state." The individual then filed in the psychologist's state and also got nowhere because the violations occurred in another state.
Her stuff is very basic CBT that you can get off of Pinterest with a gymnastics spin. It’s not impressive. The blind trust Is so troubling. That’s how Larry Nassar got away with what he did for so long. I hope more people call Doc Ali out and stop using her.Aside from what has been discussed, I've never been impressed with the results of the psychologist we are speaking of. I have 2-3 psychologist I have referred kids to over the years for fear issues and their fear is resolved within months (using a combo of EMDR and hypnosis). These include kids who were stuck for years. The kids who see DA don't ever get better (the ones I've known), but their parents don't want to try someone local because they believe they've "been to the best" so why bother with a local doctor.
Found this in a discussion elsewhere, reading all the tweets and sub-tweets was....well wow
“Here is a good discussion of some of the concerns about the work of this “sports psychologist” and how she is portraying herself:”
The school could be accredited, but the doctoral program for psychology is supposed to be “APA accredited” and then she’s supposed to complete an APA accredited internship/residency prior to graduating with her doctorate.It looks like Union (listed as her school for a PhD) is regionally accredited. Not sure what I’m missing there? I’ve never been a fan of her, having come across her work with my D and finding it lackluster (but universally recommended).
Wow. Thank you, @raenndrops, for sharing!
Found this in a discussion elsewhere, reading all the tweets and sub-tweets was....well wow
“Here is a good discussion of some of the concerns about the work of this “sports psychologist” and how she is portraying herself:”
Found this in a discussion elsewhere, reading all the tweets and sub-tweets was....well wow
“Here is a good discussion of some of the concerns about the work of this “sports psychologist” and how she is portraying herself:”
A PhD is a Doctor of Philosophy, whereas a PsyD is a Doctor of Psychology. PhD students are generally trained following the scientist-practitioner model that puts greater emphasis on research than PsyD students, while PsyD students are generally trained with greater emphasis on clinical work than PhD students.The school could be accredited, but the doctoral program for psychology is supposed to be “APA accredited” and then she’s supposed to complete an APA accredited internship/residency prior to graduating with her doctorate.
i read in one of the tweets that you can call yourself a “mental toughness” coach, no problem, with virtually no credentials. But Doc Ali is clearly portraying herself as a psychologist.
Sorry to hijack but where did you see that they’re phasing our PsyD’s? I’m just in the middle of a psychology degree and was looking at PhD and PsyD as the options and haven’t seen any mention of it in my clinical course - I’m already massively confused as it is