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That's what I had heard before, CoachP....so the gymnasts get dinged if they are between 45 degrees and vertical?! So crazy...
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that doesn't make sense. All C skills count as B skills in level 7/8, so the clearhip (near) hs would count as a B. Not a C. How can they then take deductions if they wouldn't take it as a 45* B skill?That's what I had heard before, CoachP....so the gymnasts get dinged if they are between 45 degrees and vertical?! So crazy...
====This has changed this year. There is no longer an "A" clear hip. If the hips clear the bar, it is a "B" (or "C" if handstand). Amplitude deductions do apply (0.3 at horizontal, 0.35 to 0.4 below horizontal).
, no between 20 and 10, anything from 45 to 20 is good, anything from 10 to zero is good.That's what I had heard before, CoachP....so the gymnasts get dinged if they are between 45 degrees and vertical?! So crazy...
=that doesn't make sense. All C skills count as B skills in level 7/8, so the clearhip (near) hs would count as a B. Not a C. How can they then take deductions if they wouldn't take it as a 45* B skill?
, no between 20 and 10, anything from 45 to 20 is good, anything from 10 to zero is good.
Can they do 1 giant and a clear hip? Or do they need 2 giants
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According to USAG guidelines optionals, anything below horizontal is not going to get B credit.
==There is also no deduction in levels 6-8 between a free hip between 45 degrees and vertical since no C is required. Not even half a tenth. I'll take of picture of that in the code as well. I don't know if it changed from previous years but that's what the code is saying now. View attachment 4157
Very very true since leaving out the B only takes 3 tenths off their start value.Although getting a 4 tenth deduction on an b element basically makes pretty much worthless.
What I saw last year was that a clear/free hip that didn't reach horizontal was deemed an A, and therefore if it was supposed to be one of a girl's B skills on bars, she wound up with a missing special requirement unless the second B was somewhere else in the routine.
Would it be harder with the new rules to get a 10 starting value without giants? or easier....
Actually it would be 5 tenths as well for missing a special requirement if it was their second circling skill. So 8 tenths total..my bad.