Women Can't twist

[ILoveBeamm]

I don't understand front and back twisting at all. I have good front and back layouts, but whenever I try to twist at all back I get super lost in the air (for example I tried doing a half but did a full instead, or tried doing a full but only made a half), and whenever I twist more than a half forward I get lost (trying to do a front full but doing a 3/2 instead.) I think I might just be better at flipping, as I tried double backs before and found them much more straightforward than trying to twist a layout, but I don't want to be limited by not understanding how to twist properly and consistently. Additionally, I have done good back and front fulls before, but it is very rare that I make one and I eventually lose the skills again.

 

[Coach Kate]

@Geoffrey Taucer are you the one who has shared all your body awareness trampoline progressions?

 

[ILoveBeamm]

What am I supposed to look at when I'm twisting, and when am I supposed to pull my arms? I think I just don't understand the mechanics of twisting.

 

[Dahlialover]

If you are accidentally doing a front 3/2, your body knows how to twist, you just lack air awareness. Trampoline drills are the answer. I’ll have to look for some video links when I have the time.

 

[Geoffrey Taucer]

What am I supposed to look at when I'm twisting, and when am I supposed to pull my arms? I think I just don't understand the mechanics of twisting.

Will try to remember to get back to this later today; if you don't hear from me by tonight, ping me a reminder

In the meantime, here's an earlier post I made about this: Post in thread 'Setting in back full' https://chalkbucket.com/threads/setting-in-back-full.73349/post-651118

But I have some more specific trampoline progressions for training the visual cues. Will get back to this when I have a chance to type with all ten fingers

 

[Geoffrey Taucer]

Ok, I'm going to give you some lists of trampoline skills. Start at the top of each list, read down until you see a skill you DO NOT already have down perfectly, confidently, consistently on a trampoline. Basically, tell me what's the first skill on each list that you would NOT be able to nail cleanly on the first try.

BACKWARDS SALTOS, LATE TWISTING:
-Back drop
-Back drop pullover (ie flip backwards from back drop) to hands and knees
-Back drop pullover to front drop
-3/4 back tuck from feet to hands/knees
-3/4 back tuck from feet to front drop
-3/4 back layout from feet to front drop
-3/4 back layout from feet to front drop, 1/2 turn to feet
-Back layout from feet to feet with LATE 1/2 turn (see the trampoline first, then turn)

ARABIANS:
-Back drop
-Airplane (take off backwards like a back drop, but 1/2 turn before landing so you end up in front drop)
-Arabian 3/4 to back drop
-Arabian tucked to feet
-Arabian piked to feet

FORWARD SALTOS, TWISTING:
-Controlled bounce on hands and knees
-Hands and knees, front drop, return to hands and knees
-Seat drop, hands and knees, 3/4 front to back drop
-From feet, 3/4 front to back drop
-Front 3/4 layout to flatback (can use a mat throw-in for this, or do it off the end of a tumbletrak)
-Front 3/4 pike-open to flatback
-Front pike-open to feet, with arms wide in the pike phase
-Front pike-open-1/2 to feet

Let me know on all 3 of those lists how far down you get before you see something you don't think you could nail cleanly on the first try on a trampoline. I'll use those as a starting point for progressions to suggest.

Once you have a correct back late 1/2, arabian, and front 1/2, you can do anything up to about 1.5 twists per flip without ever losing sight of the ground.

 

[ILoveBeamm]

3/4 back layout from feet to front drop, arabian 3/4 to back drop, and front pike-open to feet.