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when will my suzie learn her kip...

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I’m slightly annoyed by the response of some coaches on this post.
I work in a hospital and have to deal with patient family members asking about how their loved one is progressing and this sometimes involves questioning my thinking as it pertains to their family. This is their RIGHT. I am working directly with their family and they have every right to question my methods. And while I might think that what they are asking is silly, it is not my right to question. If I do not like this, I have every opportunity to find a new job
You can apply this same situation to coaching. While I do not know much about gymnastics, it is my right to question and for you to patiently respond. I will be respectful as possible, but please remember, you are instructing my child. If you do not like this, I’m sure there are plenty of other fields for you to work in that you will not be “annoyed” by being questioned. Perhaps you should try judging.![]()
I don't understand why the "financial aspect" or "scheduling aspect" would have anything to do with parents needing to have level determination done by a "specific date"?
f your kid is going to do this sport & you are supportive of it, why does a parent "need" to know the level the gymnast is going to compete before the coach is ready to make that determination??? It's obvious the gymnast & coach are still working to find the BEST placement...please just be patient. I doubt anyone is trying to keep any major secrets from you! They honestly just want to give your kid time to make it to that next level. They are trying to HELP your child by giving them a chance to move up!!! Let the coach & the child do what they need to do.
when will my suzie learn her kip...
will my suzie die trying to learn her kip...![]()
Title say is all! DD's coach still has not notified them of the levels they will compete this season! She is debating USAIGC "Silver" or Level 7...
Anyone else go through this?
I want to add as parents or just as individuals we have a right to feel frustrated or any other emotion and no one should question or judge that. the OP was just expressing a frustration and looking for some support.
I understand. We are not just talking about levels but 2 separate competition organizations. I don't think they are trying to drive you crazy but probably are trying to figure out which would be the better fit for the year. We did IGC Silver between Lvl 6 & Lvl 7 and it was a nice transition.
DD used very similar routines for silver & 7. Just changing skills as she gets them cleaner. In optionals the routines and the skills change all season.
Hang in there.
I want to add as parents or just as individuals we have a right to feel frustrated or any other emotion and no one should question or judge that. the OP was just expressing a frustration and looking for some support.
I understand. We are not just talking about levels but 2 separate competition organizations. I don't think they are trying to drive you crazy but probably are trying to figure out which would be the better fit for the year. We did IGC Silver between Lvl 6 & Lvl 7 and it was a nice transition.
DD used very similar routines for silver & 7. Just changing skills as she gets them cleaner. In optionals the routines and the skills change all season.
Hang in there.
I want to add as parents or just as individuals we have a right to feel frustrated or any other emotion and no one should question or judge that. the OP was just expressing a frustration and looking for some support.
I had an entire response typed up yesterday but my computer ate it.
My girls have done both USAG and USAIGC and this is the point I was going to address. You are talking about 2 different organizations. Not only, as JessMom pointed, might USAIGC Silver be a nice transition, there could also be a downside as well. In our experience, there are clubs who put their Level 8's in Silver, for whatever reason. In competition, this may prove to be discouraging to a 'new' level 7.
Many responses above mention time and finances, depending on how your club runs, there could be a big difference between your commitment for USAG vs. USAIGC (usually 1-2 meets to qualify to States, no sectionals). Personally, I would plan for more (time and $), be surprised if it's less
With all that said, however, some gyms/coaches are more open to discussions with parents, or giving parents/gymnasts concrete expectations (x and y skill by a certain date). Others are not. If you are not happy with your current situation, whichever it may be, then it seems like it might be time to re-evaulate the 'big picture'.
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I was trying to be supportive. I understand the OP's frustration completely...better then you can ever imagine! I'm actually in the same position with my DD right now! That is why I've taken so much time posting on this thread. But I'm NOT frustrated about it because I've learned some important lessons for myself from my DD being involved in this sport. Most importantly it is HER sport not mine. I've learned from EXPERIENCE & I'm trying to help the OP by sharing my experience & what I've learned. I've learned I can be as frustrated as I want, it's a choice. I can let the coach do what is best for my child or I can push for a decision on MY timetable. But I've learned that may end up not being the best decision because I pushed for it before the coach & my DD were ready to really make it. So this time I KNOW to just let the coach take his time. I trust his decision & I know he will tell me as soon as HE knows HIMSELF.
I had an entire response typed up yesterday but my computer ate it.
My girls have done both USAG and USAIGC and this is the point I was going to address. You are talking about 2 different organizations. Not only, as JessMom pointed, might USAIGC Silver be a nice transition, there could also be a downside as well. In our experience, there are clubs who put their Level 8's in Silver, for whatever reason. In competition, this may prove to be discouraging to a 'new' level 7.
Many responses above mention time and finances, depending on how your club runs, there could be a big difference between your commitment for USAG vs. USAIGC (usually 1-2 meets to qualify to States, no sectionals). Personally, I would plan for more (time and $), be surprised if it's less
With all that said, however, some gyms/coaches are more open to discussions with parents, or giving parents/gymnasts concrete expectations (x and y skill by a certain date). Others are not. If you are not happy with your current situation, whichever it may be, then it seems like it might be time to re-evaulate the 'big picture'.
With all due respect, I don't think you do understand. If I only worked weekends, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. If I could say "it just doesn't matter how this $300 of family money is spent", it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
To say "it doesn't really matter" is not understanding what is happening. To say that people should reconsider keeping their child in a sport because they need to think how $300 is spent or they might actually want to be able to figure out a family calendar for the next few months that allows for the activities of other children is not understanding. In fact, it's horribly insensitive to the pressures that many families face.
And frankly, saying how great you personally are because you've had the luxury of never missing a child's meet and you do yoga and are zen is not particularly helpful either. I suggest you look at your own advice. If just reading about another parent's frustration causes you "stress", it seems like you are not quite as zen as you would like us to believe.
Thank you for putting this a lot more nicely than others on this thread. As far as the financial aspect, I am totally fine planning to pay more and being surprised with less. However, I would really prefer to not actually pay hundreds of dollars more and wait for a refund. I would rather have that money in my possession earning interest in MY bank account. My point was that we have already passed our deadline to pay our fees and I ended up having to pay for the higher level.
I also don't think somethng like not knowing my daughter's level would cause me to re-evaluate the gym. A minor annoyance for me? Yes. Do I lose sleep over it? No.
Honestly, I feel as though a lot of words have been placed into my mouth and judgments have been made in this thread. I haven't been here long and basically feel this isn't a place I am comfortable expressing myself without getting jumped on.
With all due respect, I don't think you do understand. If I only worked weekends, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. If I could say "it just doesn't matter how this $300 of family money is spent", it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
To say "it doesn't really matter" is not understanding what is happening. To say that people should reconsider keeping their child in a sport because they need to think how $300 is spent or they might actually want to be able to figure out a family calendar for the next few months that allows for the activities of other children is not understanding. In fact, it's horribly insensitive to the pressures that many families face.
And frankly, saying how great you personally are because you've had the luxury of never missing a child's meet and you do yoga and are zen is not particularly helpful either. I suggest you look at your own advice. If just reading about another parent's frustration causes you "stress", it seems like you are not quite as zen as you would like us to believe.
Hmm? Did I personally attack you in some way? You obviously don't know me at all. Just like I don't know you. As I posted above I have always felt strongly about CB & it being a community for people to share what they have learned. I share from my heart to try & help. CB has changed over the years, so have I. I have learned so much here & I'm trying to give back to the CB community. If I had just said "Yeah I know how you feel" it would not have been honest. I DO know how the OP feels & I have learned from how I dealt with it in the past. I was trying to pass along knowledge not just support, as I thought that was one of the goals of this site.
CB has changed. And not for the better I'm afraid. I'm done here. Bye!