WAG Kim Zmeskal-Burdette gets called out ( #gymnastalliance )

[Ruben Y]

...trashcans to throw up in are not abuse or a sign thereof. throwing up is comon place if you train speed or explosive endurance which a gymnast needs. think floor exercise. there is no known way to my knowledge to train this without going to a place that hurts. vomiting is for most athletes part of this experience. usually trowing up helps and makes the pain go away faster. keep in mind this shoud be done only with athletes of a higher training age (few years of competitve training at least), a good aerobic base to help them regenerate fast after and also not with kids since they are too young to understand what is happening and what such "good pain" differentiates from "bad pain" f.e. overuse or injury related pains. also this should not be done too often. in track we limit it to once a week.

Just a ridiculous statement...

 

[MLSWAG]

I'm watching the old "Making of a Champion" documentary, and it gets me curious about Clarice and David (?), her parents. Were they abusive, or just ignorant, etc?

 

[MLSWAG]

 

[GYM0M]

the reason for vomiting after speed endurance events is the build up of lactate acid that is produced during the anaerobic energy production.

Lactic acid is a waste product resulting from anaerobic respiration, aka fermentation. It is the reason for sore muscles, not the reason for vomiting. Vomiting after intense or prolonged workouts is a result of the body’s fight or flight response. Energy and oxygen are diverted from some organs to help the muscles in dire need. Everyone’s body will respond differently to training regimes. What is normal for one may be a sign of too high intensity for another. So let’s say that there was ONE gymnast that was prone to vomiting during or after intense, cardio workouts and a few others with a sensitive gag relflex (more common), if I was the coach, I would strategically place trash cans around a workout area if I had to clean up after one of the hypothetical workouts. On the flip side, I’d have to say, if a workout was so intense that it made my kid puke, I’d have a problem.

 

[ckpn]

Several people have said that Kim was particularly unkind until she had her own kids,. She had personal success under the Karolyi method so hardly surprising that she would use those methods.
The gyms ability to pace athletes and manage injury has also be brought into question. They have a reputation for the top gymnasts never being healthy by the time they should be peaking. The fact that Ragan was able to compete in the qualification round of a world championship shocked many long term fans - the fact that she was not able to proceed due to injury didn't.

Ragan was trained in Georgia at several really good gyms for the majority of her life. Ragan did not move to Texas until 2013 when she was 13. Ragan’s mom was also an amazing coach and Ragan was in the gym nearly everyday, no practice on Sundays, literally since the day she was brought home from the hospital. So, I believe that she lasted bc her body had been trained well and paced pretty well until she was 13! I don’t think she would have made it nearly as long, if all of her training had been with TD, sadly

 

[ckpn]

...trashcans to throw up in are not abuse or a sign thereof. throwing up is comon place if you train speed or explosive endurance which a gymnast needs. think floor exercise. there is no known way to my knowledge to train this without going to a place that hurts. vomiting is for most athletes part of this experience. usually trowing up helps and makes the pain go away faster. keep in mind this shoud be done only with athletes of a higher training age (few years of competitve training at least), a good aerobic base to help them regenerate fast after and also not with kids since they are too young to understand what is happening and what such "good pain" differentiates from "bad pain" f.e. overuse or injury related pains. also this should not be done too often. in track we limit it to once a week.

Nope. Absolutely not! As a former gymnast, coach, and parent to gymnasts… this is NOT normal, and def not ok! There has never and will never be a time where it is normal or appropriate to push intensity to the level that you need to throw up! Gymnastics is all about PROGRESSIONS. absolutely push limits, but also KNOW LIMITS. Push to that point and stay there. Don’t pass that threshold UNTIL your body has gotten stronger and can now handle the next level of intensity. Unless you can show me some double blind randomized trials, I’m not falling for the “it’s normal to throw up in gym conditioning”