Women P&Gs 2017!

[Sarah_the_gymnast]

For those who aren't there: It works even in Canada!

Anyone playing the "gymnastics 101" game tonight? Anytime a commentator says it, take a drink.

We'll be on the floor in 27 minutes.

Where's the commentary?

 

[notthatmom]

Where's the commentary?

The live stream doesn't always have commentary, it's different from the actual broadcast

 

[3rd_time_around]

I like the new routine, but then again I loved the old one. I don't see anything wrong with playing to their strengths and she does high energy/cutesy well. Even Simone had some cutesy type things in her floor routine. Her tumbling looks a lot stronger as well this time around.

She's 17. Cutesy does not work.

 

[Sarah_the_gymnast]

She's 17. Cutesy does not work.

Wait she's 17?

 

[3rd_time_around]

I saw it during podium training and honestly, I expected more. I think it looks pretty childish:

8 "butt shows" is 8 too many. Just sayin'.

 

[notthatmom]

Wait she's 17?

Yep, turned 17 just about a week ago

 

[Aero]

In my personal opinion, all of you who think Ragan's floor routine is "childish" or "cutesy" are going a little bit overboard. Her routine is great, and it's much more mature when compared with her past routines. And even if it really was "cutesy," maybe that's the "character" she is trying to portray in the routine! So many people make a stink about artistry and "telling a story," or "playing a character," yet when it is done, people have issues, especially if it happens to relate to the athlete's size or age.

Every one of Texas Dreams' gymnasts has a unique and fantastic floor routine. Please stop over analyzing artistic choices and enjoy the sport!

 

[skittery]

Did anyone see Leah Clapper's amazing save on beam? (sr women day 1)

 

[bookworm]

One can only hope they devalue the wolf turn so we don't have to see it ad nauseum in every floor and beam routine!!! Do something else ladies! It's kind of like the argument for why everyone sticks to a yurchenko full...because they do it well...only not everyone does these turns well and they just have a ragged look about them....rant over.

I had high hopes for Morgan Hurd this meet but nerves seem to get the best of her...bummer. Ragan Smith is steadily getting better, albeit a shaky beam routine but a great save on the aforementioned wolf turn! She should be a lock for Worlds. I'm not a huge fan of her new floor routine but I definitely prefer it over her previous one. It showcases her skills and that is her goal I'd guess.
Mccusker looked pretty decent and in better physical health than Classic...she also should be on a short list for Worlds. I think Locklear's run as the specialist du jour is coming to an end...she literally has bars as her one strong event, and with other gymnasts getting close to her or passing her in scores , and doing AA (and able to be back up on other events) , she's becoming too risky to pick...but who knows what Valeri is thinking. With this in mind, I can see Jade Carey as the specialist with her floor and vault strengths...for a kid who was pretty unknown, she looks terrific , in general, minus the sit down tonight on vault. There's also Chiles, Frazier and Thomas who could sneak in and snag a spot as well as Schennikova who had a rough beam and floor tonight but did win Classic.

 

[jennyj]

Wish it was forbidden to do a skill more than once in a routine. I cringed at those wolf turns done one after the other and even on bars there were same flight skills done back to back. It just looks boringly repetitive and takes something from the presentation.

 

[coachmolly]

I don't mind Ragan's choreography, I'm a firm believer in doing what works for each kid. So if she enjoys it and feels happy and confident performing it- go for it. I think it would be a totally different story if they were trying to push it on her, but she really seems to enjoy cute routines. It's not my favorite personal style, but it seems to work for her and at least she sells it well. And I'm definitely not a fan of the music. It's just kind of spastic/disjointed/weird, I liked LindyHopper's wording of "stylistically incoherent." There are bright spots within the routine, but they just don't fit together into a cohesive piece which isn't really my thing. But she performs it well and makes an effort, which is a lot more than can be said for many elite routines out there.
I'm far more offended by all the wolf turn atrocities.

 

[profmom]

Did anyone see Leah Clapper's amazing save on beam? (sr women day 1)

I do not know how for the love of G-d she got up and finished that routine.

 

[profmom]

Wish it was forbidden to do a skill more than once in a routine. I cringed at those wolf turns done one after the other and even on bars there were same flight skills done back to back. It just looks boringly repetitive and takes something from the presentation.

My greatest terror about gymnastics is that someone's gonna figure out a way to do a wolf turn on bars.

 

[cadybearsmommy]

She's 17. Cutesy does not work.

That's your opinion and I understand that. But I think it still works for her and it is more mature than her last one. Simone always had a cute/bubbly routine at Ragan's age and older and I don't remember her getting so much criticism. She's a phenomenal gymnast and that's what really matters IMO. I'm sure Valeri will make any changes he deems necessary for Worlds if he thinks the routine needs tweaking.

 

[cadybearsmommy]

I don't mind Ragan's choreography, I'm a firm believer in doing what works for each kid. So if she enjoys it and feels happy and confident performing it- go for it. I think it would be a totally different story if they were trying to push it on her, but she really seems to enjoy cute routines. It's not my favorite personal style, but it seems to work for her and at least she sells it well. And I'm definitely not a fan of the music. It's just kind of spastic/disjointed/weird, I liked LindyHopper's wording of "stylistically incoherent." There are bright spots within the routine, but they just don't fit together into a cohesive piece which isn't really my thing. But she performs it well and makes an effort, which is a lot more than can be said for many elite routines out there.
I'm far more offended by all the wolf turn atrocities.

I think we can all agree about the wolf turns!!! Lol!!

 

[coachmolly]

My greatest terror about gymnastics is that someone's gonna figure out a way to do a wolf turn on bars.

I guess maybe you could do a gienger in a wolf position?

 

[Jard.the.gymnast]

I guess maybe you could do a gienger in a wolf position?

I don't see any reason why you can't do all of the release skills in a pike with one leg bent, making it a wolf. Anyone have opinions about D-score of these skills?

 

[Sarah_the_gymnast]

I do not know how for the love of G-d she got up and finished that routine.

 

[Sarah_the_gymnast]

Wish it was forbidden to do a skill more than once in a routine. I cringed at those wolf turns done one after the other and even on bars there were same flight skills done back to back. It just looks boringly repetitive and takes something from the presentation.

My greatest terror about gymnastics is that someone's gonna figure out a way to do a wolf turn on bars.

I think we can all agree about the wolf turns!!! Lol!!

I guess maybe you could do a gienger in a wolf position?

I don't see any reason why you can't do all of the release skills in a pike with one leg bent, making it a wolf. Anyone have opinions about D-score of these skills?

watch this

 

[jennyj]

watch this

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