Highest Score to Date

[gracefulone]

I was watching some old Olympic footage out of pleasure, and it sparked a question in me.

I'm fairly certain that Nastia's 17.1 on the uneven bars is the highest posted by a US gymnast, but I also am aware that He Kexin was the first to score over 17. Does anyone know what that score was? Also, are there others who have scored 17 or above (Beth Tweddle?)

Also, what about the men? What's the highest score on the guys' side?

 

[bogwoppit]

But now the FIG code of points has changed again since the Olys, it is not possible that anyone can beat Nastia's score.

I wish they'd stop changing things. Though when it is possible to score very high on bars, it makes it impossible for anyone to winn AA withoutbeing an incredible bar worker.

 

[flippinlolly]

While I hate them changing things I can see why they do it and its sort of what you've said Bog! I think the All Around should be just that, all around and they need to have a more regulated scoring system that means the same standard of difficulty on bars will give you the same difficulty score as it would on say floor! Although...it was kind of hard to get my head around it! All my scoring started changing! So while I hate the constant changes I think this one was for the best!

 

[I-Heart-Beam]

He Kexin got a 17.3 in the 2008 Chinese Nats (I think). But FIG scoring is generally less inflated than home nation scoring- highest at the Olympics was Nastia's 16.9.

EDIT, yeah she did. And Yang Yilin got 17.05.

 

[gracefulone]

Belated thanks for the responses. And yes, Bog, I realized that they had made those changes and we will most likely never see another 17 (well at least not until the next code change lol)

And of course I'm bumping this to see if there's anyone with insights on the men.

 

[gymnut1]

I have wondered in the past if the AA position could be worked out using the positions the gymnastics placed on pieces rather than their scores. ie add up the places and lowest score wins.

I think that this would throw up problems where a very close 2nd place by 0.01 for instance would be worth the same as a huge gap to 2nd never a hope of making 1st place. I think you could get round this by also using the gap from highest score on each piece. Not sure if it would be best just to add the gaps to scores as such or multiply them in some way to make a kind of factor. Someone really clever would need to work that one out. haha.

Somehow you could equalise the scoring vagueries on each piece to make a true all rounder.

sorry Im drivelling now.

 

[bogwoppit]

No that would be an interesting idea gymnut. For our regional gym meets they use a system like that to qualify for provincials as it evens out scoring at different meets. A 1st gets you 10 pts, 2nd 8, 3rd 6 and the 4th 5, 5th etc. It works really well as then the person with the most points is the person with the most, and highest placings.

Drivelling can be very interesting sometimes. They really need a way to even out the apparatus to create a true AA.

 

[gracefulone]

I agree! Things just don't add up...I mean I know it's now out of date, but Nastia Liukin WON the all-around with a 5.7(I think. If not that, then still quite low) start value on vault, but a 7.7(7.6? 7.8?) on bars. That is a monstrous gap.

AA titles used to be so so close...Memmel won it by .001; now it can be by over a point.

 

[I-Heart-Beam]

Heres how the Beijing AA would have finished if you worked out the scores by average place on each event:

Name, VT, UB, BB, FX, actual finish (bold):
1. Liukin (8,2,1,1,1)
2. Johnson (1,10,2,1,2)
3. Yang (5,1,6,5,3)
4. Semenova (14,3,4,6, 4)
5. Pavlova (4,18,3,4, 7)
6. Nistor (7,4,8,10,5)
7. Isbasa (6,20,5,3,8)
8. Jiang (13,5,10,6, 6)
9. Chusovitina (2,14,16,8, 9)
10. Barbosa (8,12,9,18, 10)
11. Downie (8,6,17,16, 12)
12. Ferarri (16,11,7,18, 11)
13. Parolari (24,8,13,10, 14)
14. Bonora (12,16,14,14, 13)
15. Morgan (17,16,14,13, 15)
16. Kaslin (3,21,19,18, 18)
16. Hopfner Hibbs (11,7,22,21, 16)
18. Petit (15,19,20,9, 19)
18. Tsurumi (21,13,11,22, 17)
20. Oshima (18,15,23,12,20)
21.Palesnova (22,8,18,24, 21)
22. Dugain (19,22,12,23, 23)
23. Silva (20,23,21,15,22)
24. Mys (23,24,24,17, 24)

It doesn't make much difference at all really, I thought it would have! It takes longer to work out thought and I don't know what you'd do about ties if you worked out final placement that way. I'll work out Worlds AA and see if the new code made any difference.

ps. Can you tell I don't want to do my homework?

 

[I-Heart-Beam]

CRAP. Just clicked the back button by accident and lost all my figures :cryingeyesout:

Back to the start...

EDIT, Here we go. Same format as before. I got a bit muddled so they might be wrong, but I'm sure I sorted it out. These are more interesting

1. Sloan (2, 3, 7, 1, 1)
2. Yang (3, 8, 4, 5, 6)
3. Mitchell (7, 10, 2, 4, 4)
4. Bross (5, 1, 1, 19, 2)
5. Tsurumi (18, 2, 3, 6, 3)
6. Dufournet (8, 6, 5, 11, 5)
7. Porgras (17, 5, 8, 2, 7)
8. Tamirjan (9, 13, 8, 7, 9)
9. Kaeslin (1, 11, 16, 10, 8)
10. Kurbatova (4, 4, 21, 11, 10)
11. Deng (10, 9, 15, 7, 11)
12. Downie (6, 15, 13, 9, 16)
13. Garcia (12, 7, 17, 13, 12)
14. Semenova (20, 18, 6, 6, 13)
15. Kuroiwa (11, 16, 18, 14, 14)
16. Morel (15, 9, 19, 17, 15)
17. Wing (13, 17, 13, 23, 18)
17. Rogers (14, 12, 22, 18, 19)
17. Kim (21, 19, 4, 22, 17) three way tie for 17th!
20. Wagner (15, 22, 11, 20, 21)
21. Galante (23, 20, 12, 16, 20)
22. Uemura (22, 21, 23, 21, 22)
22. Kroonen (24, 24,24, 15, 24)
24. Bui (19, 23, 20, 24, 23)

 

[gracefulone]

Very interesting. Pavlova moves up 2 spots, but the medals remain unaffected.