Women Weiler Kips

[lipama19]

I was watching Jordyn Wieber's bar routine the other day and her Weiler Kip caught my eye. I love Weiler kips because they're so uncommon in Women's gymnastics, and it's a nice change from the ever predictable skills done on bars. My question is: what is the value of a Weiler Kip? Is it different if it's from handstand? If it's a C, can doing two connected count as your C-C bonus in Level 9? And what is a Weiler 1/2 pirouette worth?

And... if a Weiler Kip to/from Handstand has a different value than a Weiler Kip with no Handstand, will you get the credit for the Handstand if it is a Straddle Cast?





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[BlairBob]

Looking at the FIG CoP, it's a D. It might be valued higher in the JO CoP and I'd have to download Gymquest to see.

I don't see Weiler kip without a HS in the CoP. So it might not get anything but an A I would think in that case. The CoP picture shows it from a HS.

With a 1/2 turn, it's still a D. With a full turn into a Healey, it used to be an E but seems to have been downgraded in the past few years.

If you really are dying to know, I'll ask a few L9/10 judges I know. Just not my former boss, lol.

 

[lipama19]

Thank you. Do you know where I could download or view the JO Code of Points online?

 

[BlairBob]

You have to buy the US JO CoP.

Check this out, maybe.

Home Judging software for WAG JO.

 

[Coach S]

On side note, Weiler came by our gym recently and was giving us tips on how to do his kip. That was pretty cool.

 

[lipama19]

Wow, that's awesome!

 

[BlairBob]

Any you'd care to share. I never worked nor do I think did any of my friends work it.

 

[Coach S]

I'll put some video up on youtube that I took. Weiler's grandson trains at our gym and it was neat seeing him learn it.

 

[bionickoolaid]

It's a d in JO so you couldn't do 2 in a row at level 9. But you'll get a tenth in connection bonus for the cali hop or front giant you use to get into it. On a side note this is the only way I would try to get into it, the margin of error is too small to try to blind change directly into it.

 

[Deleted member D3987]

this is correct ^^^. to date, neither boy or girl has done a Weiler out of a blind change. to much swing/risk.