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I am one of those super involved gym moms on my daughters' gymnastics teams. Some of the l4s&5s are struggling with getting their front hips with straight arms. Any drills or tips i could share with the team?
I am one of those super involved gym moms on my daughters' gymnastics teams. Some of the l4s&5s are struggling with getting their front hips with straight arms. Any drills or tips i could share with the team?
I have strait arms throughout the skill. The way I do this is simple. The start of the skill I am in support. then I push the bar down my legs until it is near the middle of my thighs and I am in a hollow shape. While holding this shape tight I fall forwards and try to stay long throughout the fall. As I rotate to the point where I am upside down and about to try to rotate above the bar I perform a kip action. This is the tug at the end of a kip with similar timing. This shoots me up above the bar with strait arms and a fair degree of power.
To work on this I would practice candles and candle rockers on the bar and lots of kips.
this would be true if we went with the premise that you can't do a strait arm kip. I change my grip during the kip action. I can assure you it is entirely possible.In order to "regrip" the bar in the correct position to planche the shoulders over at the end, there is a slight bend during the circle. Perhaps for some it's anatomically possible to do this with completely straight arms, but for most kids it won't be possible. I have much more advanced circling skills than an average compulsory and I can't do it without a slight bend. When you planche over the top if you're really strong then during the "fold" action before the cast even then there's a difference between locked arms (which usually results in pushing away from the bar, both in kip casts and FHC) and "not bent" arms. During the casting action the arms should obviously be straight.
i'm confused... who's on 1st???
this would be true if we went with the premise that you can't do a strait arm kip. I change my grip during the kip action. I can assure you it is entirely possible.
Straight arm kip, yes.
Straight arm kip cast handstand, no. At least, not for most kids.
For most people, simply due to the fact that the arms are longer than the upper-torso, the arms have to bend slightly while "loading" the cast. This is true both at the end of a front hip circle and at the end of a kip (and while doing just a cast on its own). I suppose you could avoid this by having a very wide grip, but that would cause more problems than it would solve.
Are there some kids for whom its possible without any bend at all? I wouldn't be surprised. But for most, it's simply not possible.
We are discussing a front hip circle. Where are you getting the cast to handstand from?Straight arm kip, yes.
Straight arm kip cast handstand, no. At least, not for most kids.
For most people, simply due to the fact that the arms are longer than the upper-torso, the arms have to bend slightly while "loading" the cast. This is true both at the end of a front hip circle and at the end of a kip (and while doing just a cast on its own). I suppose you could avoid this by having a very wide grip, but that would cause more problems than it would solve.
Are there some kids for whom its possible without any bend at all? I wouldn't be surprised. But for most, it's simply not possible.
Haha solid response.Things evolve, sometimes only in my head!